Which Is The #1 Recruiting Class

[BAC]

1 hour ago, Truzzcat said:

I do not inherently disagree I do think Ladarion is in the same tier as PJ and Marcus in folk I thought he actually looked better during the folk season than he did at the open. Beating burton while bumping up a weight 9-3 I believe and beating Melvin 11-1 in the ironman finals. Robideau has a trajectory where I think he could still be making big improvements. He has always been good but not a top p4p guy until the last year. I think your argument for national titles is super valid I just don't know as good as Henkel and Cunningham are that they find themselves in the lineup for more than a year without some serious eligibility manipulation with grey shirts and medicals.

I think this is fair.  I have Lockett slightly behind Duke/Blaze in folk but you're right that his results this year have been fire in both styles.  I do have him as a likely NCAA titlist and you're probably right that they are the same overall tier.  But I do predict more titles overall from the PSU class, which makes me lean to them.

[Eagle26]

On 4/24/2025 at 12:34 AM, Husker_Du said:

PJ Duke starts when and where he wants. 

you guys aren't understanding me. 

You really think Duke could beat Mesenbrink out for a spot this year?! No way that’s happening. 

[Husker_Du]

Recruiting Class Rankings are up

https://rokfin.com/article/19868/2025-Recruit-Bible

[Winners Circle]

On 4/30/2025 at 10:32 AM, RandolphTJones said:

100%

 

@Husker_Du PJ Duke is the best high school recruit since.............?

I can't speak for @Husker_Du. But Duke has battled some injuries throughout HS, so he doesn't have the some of the same accolades as some of the all-time great HS recruits (Spencer, Gable, Mark Hall, etc.). But in terms of upside and skill set, he's in that group in my eyes. Maybe one tier below, but it's splitting hairs imo. 

[Husker_Du]

Meyer Shapiro was a monster prospect. I'm not going to give a revisionist assessment of it.

At the time of graduation, I thought Meyer was ever bit the prospect Duke is. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

On 5/15/2025 at 9:52 AM, Winners Circle said:

I can't speak for @Husker_Du. But Duke has battled some injuries throughout HS, so he doesn't have the some of the same accolades as some of the all-time great HS recruits (Spencer, Gable, Mark Hall, etc.). But in terms of upside and skill set, he's in that group in my eyes. Maybe one tier below, but it's splitting hairs imo. 

I think people forget how amazing Mark Hall's age group freestyle accolades were.  Right up there with Spencer and Gable.

[juniorvarsity]

Meyer was the right guy to put #1 in 2023, and long term I still believe he will be the most accomplished freestyle wrestler of the class.

AA's from 2023 recruiting class:

2024 -- Rocco 2nd, Kasak 3rd, Stanich 5th, Bailey 4th, Watters 4th.

2025 -- Knox - 8th, Davis 5th, Stiles 6th, Fugitt 4th, Ruiz 5th, Kueter 8th,McEnelly 3rd, Barr 2nd, McDanel 8th, Kasak 3rd,  Blaze 2nd, Novak 5th, VRob 1st.

I may have missed somebody. Time will tell who will score the most NCAA points in the end.

[Husker_Du]

2021 turned out just atrocious.

not specifically my rankings. but the production of the entire class.

 

Rank	Name	School	Weight	College
1	Paddy Gallagher	St. Edward OH	157/165	Ohio St.
2	Alex Facundo	Davison MI	174	Penn St.
3	Richie Figueroa	Selma CA	125	Arizona St.
4	Drake Ayala	Fort Dodge IA	133	Iowa
5	Shayne Van Ness	Blair NJ	141/149	Penn St.
6	Dean Hamiti	Joliet Cath. IL	157/165	Wisconsin
7	Lenny Pinto	Stroudsburg PA	184	Nebraska
8	Chance Lamer	Crescent Valley OR	149	Michigan
9	Alejandro Herrera	Seneca Valley PA	157	Oklahoma
10	Dean Peterson	Vianney NJ	133	Rutgers
11	Carter Young	Stillwater OK	141	OK State
12	Joel Vandervere	Warren IL	149	Northwestern
13	Cael Valencia	SJ Bosco CA	174	Arizona St.
14	Alek Martin	Graham OH	149	SD State
15	Victor Voinovich	Brecksville OH	149/157	OK State
16	Wyatt Henson	Waynesburg PA	141	Iowa
17	Jagger Condomitti	Northampton PA	165	Nebraska
18	Caden McCrary	Woodland GA	133/141	Carolina
19	Tate Picklo	Mustang OK	197	Oklahoma
20	Cooper Flynn	McDonogh MD (TN)	125/133	Virginia Tech
21	Travis Mastrogiovanni	Blair NJ	157	OK State
22	Bennett Tabor	Simley MN	197/285	Minnesota
23	Joey Milano	Spring Ford PA	184	NC State
24	Kyonte Hamilton	Georgetown MD	285	Rutgers
25	Ben Alanis	Valiant Prep AZ	141	N. Colorado
26	Brett Ungar	Notre Dame PA (NJ)	125	Cornell
27	David Szuba	Brick Mem. NJ	285	Rider
28	Enrique Munguia	Elyria OH	165	Kent St.
29	Maximo Renteria	Buchanan CA	141	Illinois
30	Stevo Poulin	Shenendahowa NY	125	NC State

[BAC]

Dang, half of that 2021 "top 30" didn't even start last year.  That's brutal.

Maybe I missed someone but I count just 5 AAs among that group (#s 3-6 and 30).   

[Truzzcat]

I thought Alejandro Herrera was going to win right away. Welsh was only a sophmore at the time and he was a senior but he was 5-0 against Welsh his senior year. He just seemed to have a college style.

[wrestlingfan22]

13 hours ago, BAC said:

Dang, half of that 2021 "top 30" didn't even start last year.  That's brutal.

Maybe I missed someone but I count just 5 AAs among that group (#s 3-6 and 30).   

Hamilton is in the NFL now, Milano quit wrestling and is doing MMA, Mastro and McCrary idk what they are doing atp, Vandervere has 12 career matches in college, Picklo is going to NAIA, Jagger has 19 matches in his career against D1 guys and is 8-11. Just some crazy career paths in the top 30. Not anything against Willie, just shows how crazy the class as a whole was

Edited Tuesday at 01:51 PM by wrestlingfan22

[juniorvarsity]

Identifying talent is super hard. Look at the NFL. Everyone and their mom can agree that this one guy should go #1 overall, yet they can't hold down a starting spot. There are so many top ten overall busts.

More people should try to put a big board together. I would bet that most people's boards would like pretty similar. 

[MNRodent]

7 hours ago, juniorvarsity said:

Identifying talent is super hard. Look at the NFL. Everyone and their mom can agree that this one guy should go #1 overall, yet they can't hold down a starting spot. There are so many top ten overall busts.

More people should try to put a big board together. I would bet that most people's boards would like pretty similar. 

Yes, it really is difficult.  It's hard enough just doing it based on observable abilities at a given point of time, but it is much more than that.  Things like burnout, growth spurts, improvement trajectory, academics, injuries, partying, etc. can all come it to play when looking back at a board years later.

[RandolphTJones]

On 6/16/2025 at 7:52 PM, Husker_Du said:

2021 turned out just atrocious.

not specifically my rankings. but the production of the entire class.

 

Rank	Name	School	Weight	College
1	Paddy Gallagher	St. Edward OH	157/165	Ohio St.
2	Alex Facundo	Davison MI	174	Penn St.
3	Richie Figueroa	Selma CA	125	Arizona St.
4	Drake Ayala	Fort Dodge IA	133	Iowa
5	Shayne Van Ness	Blair NJ	141/149	Penn St.
6	Dean Hamiti	Joliet Cath. IL	157/165	Wisconsin
7	Lenny Pinto	Stroudsburg PA	184	Nebraska
8	Chance Lamer	Crescent Valley OR	149	Michigan
9	Alejandro Herrera	Seneca Valley PA	157	Oklahoma
10	Dean Peterson	Vianney NJ	133	Rutgers
11	Carter Young	Stillwater OK	141	OK State
12	Joel Vandervere	Warren IL	149	Northwestern
13	Cael Valencia	SJ Bosco CA	174	Arizona St.
14	Alek Martin	Graham OH	149	SD State
15	Victor Voinovich	Brecksville OH	149/157	OK State
16	Wyatt Henson	Waynesburg PA	141	Iowa
17	Jagger Condomitti	Northampton PA	165	Nebraska
18	Caden McCrary	Woodland GA	133/141	Carolina
19	Tate Picklo	Mustang OK	197	Oklahoma
20	Cooper Flynn	McDonogh MD (TN)	125/133	Virginia Tech
21	Travis Mastrogiovanni	Blair NJ	157	OK State
22	Bennett Tabor	Simley MN	197/285	Minnesota
23	Joey Milano	Spring Ford PA	184	NC State
24	Kyonte Hamilton	Georgetown MD	285	Rutgers
25	Ben Alanis	Valiant Prep AZ	141	N. Colorado
26	Brett Ungar	Notre Dame PA (NJ)	125	Cornell
27	David Szuba	Brick Mem. NJ	285	Rider
28	Enrique Munguia	Elyria OH	165	Kent St.
29	Maximo Renteria	Buchanan CA	141	Illinois
30	Stevo Poulin	Shenendahowa NY	125	NC State

Weren't there like 2-3 Mastrogiovanni bros? Any still wrestling?