Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2023-01-19/ncaa-releases-first-coaches-ranking-2023-division-i-wrestling-championships To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Idaho Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 1:11 PM, Offthemat said: What’s the point of the qualifications? Expand To qualify. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 12:27 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2023-01-19/ncaa-releases-first-coaches-ranking-2023-division-i-wrestling-championships To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Expand So we all know these ranking are flawed but if you only used these data what would the data wizardry show for current team rankings? .
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 It could show Rutgers in first place, but who’d pay any more heed to it than they do the individual rankings? They’re obviously flawed. Unless that’s the minimum requirement for entering the tournament.
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 52.1 points to win. When’s the last time that happened?
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:09 PM, Offthemat said: 52.1 points to win. When’s the last time that happened? Expand 52.1 plus bonus. The first place team usually scores around 24 bonus points. But that seems unlikely if you only score 52 advancement and placement points, so lets call it 15 bonus. That gets you around 67 total. The last time that would have won was 1960 when the tournament was only scored to four places and first place was only worth 10 points. But this way is more democratic. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 1963 Oklahoma with 48 points. Iowa State 2nd with 45 points.
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 We got different info. Mine came from here: https://www.ncaa.com/history/wrestling/d1
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:23 PM, Offthemat said: We got different info. Mine came from here: https://www.ncaa.com/history/wrestling/d1 Expand nope. I just scanned my data and missed 1963. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
gimpeltf Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:30 PM, Offthemat said: Were there only 4 AAs back then? Expand 6 but it was the first year
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:41 PM, gimpeltf said: 6 but it was the first year Expand Thanks
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:05 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Expand That's what I'm talking about, wouldn't that be a fun tournament. The coaches have spoken, those other guys don't qualify. .
PortaJohn Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:05 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Expand I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:47 PM, PortaJohn said: I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all Expand I'm sure Jimmy will take that bet. 1 .
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:47 PM, PortaJohn said: I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all Expand I will take the other side of that bet. Put me down for $1 trillion in a basket of LUNA, UST, and a few coins I will invent if I lose the bet. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Show_Me Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 12:27 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Expand Why isn't Cronin (Nebraska) on the Coaches 125# Ranking ? What am I missing here ? WKN, anybody ?
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 7, 2023 Author Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 12:44 AM, Show_Me said: Why isn't Cronin (Nebraska) on the Coaches 125# Ranking ? What am I missing here ? WKN, anybody ? Expand Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:13 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. Expand So ... you are saying you don't know? .
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 7, 2023 Author Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:28 AM, ionel said: So ... you are saying you don't know? Expand Everything about me screams it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:32 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Everything about me screams it. Expand I'm sure I speak for many on these here boards in saying we really question your commitment to the scream when you don't throw a ! behind it. 1 .
Show_Me Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:13 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. Expand Seems so. How do the Coaches have an “oversight” on a wrestler just coming off consecutive wins against the Intermat #3 & #4 (DeAugustino & McKee) literally days before the Ranking. Lol.
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