Ford offers employee pricing to EVERYONE!!

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Devil is always in the details

You're never happy!

You could say you need to take a shower, end up with a couple of Trump's whores getting pissed on and act like you're  being SOOOO put out! Disgraceful. 

[red viking]

4 hours ago, scourge165 said:

You're never happy!

You could say you need to take a shower, end up with a couple of Trump's whores getting pissed on and act like you're  being SOOOO put out! Disgraceful. 

You may have misunderstood what I was saying. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Current inventory or not they still could have raised prices like other companies with current inventory ARE.  they didn’t. They offered a deal lowering the prices.  

[1032004]

25 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Current inventory or not they still could have raised prices like other companies with current inventory ARE.  they didn’t. They offered a deal lowering the prices.  

Other car companies?  Last I read the car market has slowed (likely in part due to concerns about the economy)

[JimmySpeaks]

18 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Other car companies?  Last I read the car market has slowed (likely in part due to concerns about the economy)

Car sales actually were up 2% for 2024 as compared to 2023. As Google AI states there is still a strong demand for vehicles 

Edited April 4 by JimmySpeaks

[Scouts Honor]

15 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Haven’t car companies been offering this promotion for like decades?

no

[Scouts Honor]

10 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Because their cars aren’t very good.  Probably why they still have so much inventory 

um i own to OLD fords... working wonderfully...

and i had a third for 18 years before i sold it off... 

so yeah.. whatever.

[Scouts Honor]

my daughter went to buy a jeep. there was no mention of employee pricing.

so my bro in law, who works for chrysler, went to help her and guess what...

[jross]

15 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

Would anything ever please you? Somewhere along the way someone hurt you bad or made fun of you for your weight, but you are so damn jaded. Something tells me you could win $100M and you would find a way to whine about the taxes you have to pay on it. You in all seriousness need help.

He said thank you at least once.

 

[red viking]

14 minutes ago, jross said:

He said thank you at least once.

 

I was actually agreeing with what he said. I think he misunderstood. 

[Lipdrag]

 

 

RV Sees this:

  

 

And reports:  "Jesus can't swim!"

[red viking]

44 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

 

 

RV Sees this:

  

 

And reports:  "Jesus can't swim!"

False Prophet. Grndat is the TRUE God 

[JimmySpeaks]

37 minutes ago, red viking said:

False Prophet. Grndat is the TRUE God 

You’re just mad you can’t burn his flag or ruin his 401k 

Edited April 5 by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You’re just mad you can’t burn his flag or ruin his 401k 

I only enjoy burning u.s. flags. 

[JimmySpeaks]

That’s just one of your side gigs 

[scourge165]

23 hours ago, red viking said:

You may have misunderstood what I was saying. 

No, I did...I was just being facetious.

Other comments about how it wasn't good enough...etc...

 

Also, I've spent the last two days sitting in a Hospital room waiting for a parent to get transferred to Hospice watching what COULD be the worst economic meltdown since...The Housing Crisis or since the Great Depression(I don't see Trump stepping in and bailing people out as it'll make him look bad) so...some of my jokes may not quite be landing. 

 

Edited April 5 by scourge165

[JimmySpeaks]

8 hours ago, scourge165 said:

No, I did...I was just being facetious.

Other comments about how it wasn't good enough...etc...

 

Also, I've spent the last two days sitting in a Hospital room waiting for a parent to get transferred to Hospice watching what COULD be the worst economic meltdown since...The Housing Crisis or since the Great Depression(I don't see Trump stepping in and bailing people out as it'll make him look bad) so...some of my jokes may not quite be landing. 

 

It wasn’t that hard to understand.  It was RV who didn’t get the landing sooooo.  The hate you have for a certain individual is not good for your body or your sole.  The fact that you can’t stop replying to someone you have on ignore is unhealthy. I will say your second grade name calling is cute though.  
 

That being said Here’s some non twitter regurgitated advice …….

having gone thru hospice with both of my parents I do understand what it’s like.  It’s never easy and sadly There is no handbook for how to handle it.  For your sake and theirs please be in the moment as much as you possibly can.  

[jross]

It is never easy to lose a parent; I am sorry.

[Offthemat]

8 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I've spent the last two days

My condolences.  That gives insight into your apparent irritability.  That said, you’ve made comments on various threads and I’m going to reply to a few of them here.  You say you studied history and finance.  You’ve disparaged each of the sites I’ve used to show you that things are not as you say.  You’ve said you are open to learning but denigrate every offering.  I use them to illustrate what scholars have reasoned from their studies, they are not ideological.  If you were taught in school that Smoot/Hawley tariffs caused the depression, it’s about time you learned better.  In fact, the S/H tariffs were in response to tariffs and trade barriers that Europe had imposed on our goods.  It’s as if any measures imposed by other countries are perfectly acceptable, but if the U.S. attempts to gain parity or advantage, it’s destructive. 
 

In the classroom you have to align with the instructor to obtain a passing grade   But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the information you were given is correct.  First day of one of the classes I enrolled in, the professor told everybody to not spend any more than they had to for the textbook because the school wouldn’t buy it back.  There was a new process, but we won’t have that book until next semester   What this book teaches, you will never use and you’ll have to learn the new way somewhere else, maybe on the job.  But this is the book we have, so this is what you’re going to learn.  If you pay the money and go to class, they’re probably going to teach you something, but you need to maintain your critical thinking skills at all times  

 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Offthemat said:

My condolences.  That gives insight into your apparent irritability.  That said, you’ve made comments on various threads and I’m going to reply to a few of them here.  You say you studied history and finance.  You’ve disparaged each of the sites I’ve used to show you that things are not as you say.  You’ve said you are open to learning but denigrate every offering.  I use them to illustrate what scholars have reasoned from their studies, they are not ideological.  If you were taught in school that Smoot/Hawley tariffs caused the depression, it’s about time you learned better.  In fact, the S/H tariffs were in response to tariffs and trade barriers that Europe had imposed on our goods.  It’s as if any measures imposed by other countries are perfectly acceptable, but if the U.S. attempts to gain parity or advantage, it’s destructive. 
 

In the classroom you have to align with the instructor to obtain a passing grade   But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the information you were given is correct.  First day of one of the classes I enrolled in, the professor told everybody to not spend any more than they had to for the textbook because the school wouldn’t buy it back.  There was a new process, but we won’t have that book until next semester   What this book teaches, you will never use and you’ll have to learn the new way somewhere else, maybe on the job.  But this is the book we have, so this is what you’re going to learn.  If you pay the money and go to class, they’re probably going to teach you something, but you need to maintain your critical thinking skills at all times  

 

No, not really. I assure you if I saw our President plunging us needlessly into a recession that would harm the entire nation, it's make me a little irritable under ANY circumstances. 

 

The rest of your whining, you say the tariffs are higher and I should be "open to learning." And you? You just keep using the equivalent of Wikipedia?

 

2 hours ago, Offthemat said:

 If you were taught in school that Smoot/Hawley tariffs caused the depression, it’s about time you learned better.  

I don't actually think I said that, but ANY consideration to YOU being wrong?

Were the THOUSANDS of economists then OR now wrong?

 

I've laid it out for you as SIMPLY as possible. 

Smoot-Hawley Passes at a time when the US Economy is about as strong as it's EVER been.

Unemployment is virtually non-existent. If you want to work, you can work. 
Inflation, there is no inflation. .6

Passing it, JUST as what happens this week causes the Market to Crash.
 

Within 7 months of signing it into Law, unemployment goes from ~1% to 12% on it's way to 15%.

 

 

[Offthemat]

3 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Passing it, JUST as what happens this week causes the Market to Crash.

You’re just going to ignore that farmers and construction workers in the home building sector were experiencing the depression before Hoover asked Congress to pass a new tariff?  Ignore that the fed had increased the interest rates by 300 basis points in the first half of 1929, and another 100 before the market crash?  Then good day, sir.

[scourge165]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

You’re just going to ignore that farmers and construction workers in the home building sector were experiencing the depression before Hoover asked Congress to pass a new tariff?  Ignore that the fed had increased the interest rates by 300 basis points in the first half of 1929, and another 100 before the market crash?  Then good day, sir.

You're teaching ME now, right?

That's what you wanted the opportunity to do?

What types of tariffs did Hoover ask for?

Further more, what have I said about targeted tariffs for an industry vs blanket tariffs?

I believe I've made my point ABUNDANTLY clear on this citing examples just of Reagan with Motorcycles, Semiconductors, the 1960s, the "Chicken War," I brought up. That was Europe protecting one of IT'S key industries.

 

Now answer those and then...maybe it's possible you'll see how Smoot-Hawley led to the Great Depression. But you have to do some of this and have some foundation on your own. You started this by quite proudly pointing out that the tariffs didn't go into effect until after the market crashed.

Well...have Trump's tariffs gone into effect yet? What's happened to the markets?

[Offthemat]

12 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

What types of tariffs did Hoover ask for?

Hoover wanted tariffs to help farmers, Smoot, Hawley, and other congressmen couldn’t help including their own favorite sectors.  Chronology wasn’t my first divergence, I lay the vast majority of the blame on the Fed.  

[JimmySpeaks]

44 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

You're teaching ME now, right?

That's what you wanted the opportunity to do?

What types of tariffs did Hoover ask for?

Further more, what have I said about targeted tariffs for an industry vs blanket tariffs?

I believe I've made my point ABUNDANTLY clear on this citing examples just of Reagan with Motorcycles, Semiconductors, the 1960s, the "Chicken War," I brought up. That was Europe protecting one of IT'S key industries.

 

Now answer those and then...maybe it's possible you'll see how Smoot-Hawley led to the Great Depression. But you have to do some of this and have some foundation on your own. You started this by quite proudly pointing out that the tariffs didn't go into effect until after the market crashed.

Well...have Trump's tariffs gone into effect yet? What's happened to the markets?

Try looking at the five things Trump knows a country needs to be self sufficient.  That’s where he wants to end up.  Blanket will turn into targeted.  Good grief. 

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks

[scourge165]

14 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Hoover wanted tariffs to help farmers, Smoot, Hawley, and other congressmen couldn’t help including their own favorite sectors.  Chronology wasn’t my first divergence, I lay the vast majority of the blame on the Fed.  

Chronology WAS your first divergence(at least the first you articulated to me)...asking how could Smoot-Hawley have caused it when it wasn't signed until after the crash...but fine.

Ok...but as it pertains to the actual bill, what you're telling me is that despite a bill to introduce a specific tariff on one industry, instead they implemented a bill that introduced tariffs on...I believe it was ~90 different industries and tens of thousands of good when all was said and done and that decimated the economy, and at the VERY least SIGNIFICANTLY contributed to the Great Depression, right? Lets agree that Smoot-Hawley was merely something a catalyst that set off a recession that was inevitable and then other things led to it last ~12 years(fair?).

I'd ask why there is SUCH an immediate correlation to the unemployment of the 1930s started ALMOST immediately after Hoover actually signed it, but...again, just agree Smoot-Hawley=VERY-VERY bad.

 

 

So my question would be, if Smoot-Hawley, which initially was meant to protect our agricultural industry before every other industry began asking for their own little carve out, if THAT backfired by eventually serving as a blanket tariff, why would we possible go back to that same policy on purpose nearly 100 years later?

 

 

And to put a finer point on my belief about Smoot-Hawley, I think the Economy was showing some cracks, the masive wealth inequality is...unhealthy for every free market, and the Federal Government needed to step in and help bolster some industries as it has since done on countless occasions. We had built up during the industrial revolution and our we were growing far more produce than we needed(so we actually NEEDED global trade). We MAY have seen a recession that could have been akin to the Housing Crisis. But we lost about 65% of our Global trade as a result... and rather than an economic slowdown, we did the worst thing we possibly could have at that time. We started an escalating trade war that led to a depression-IN PART(fair?) that we eventually had to spend our way out of with WWII.