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Thank you to @jross and @Cornell Kevin for plugging holes in my data.

Here is the updated, corrected version of most dominant Hodge winners of all time. With the new data Zain Retherford hangs on to the title, but Stephen Neal knocks Ben Askren and Cael Sanderson down a peg.

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Speaking of Retherford.

His 2016 dominance score of 5.03 was higher than eventual Hodge winner, Alex Dieringer's, score of 4.76. That is the last time the Hodge winner did not have the highest dominance score.

Though it had happened prior to 2016. In 2011, Jordan Burroughs won with a dominance score of 4.61, which was only third best among finalists. Jordan Oliver (4.79) and Anthony Robles (4.64) each had higher scores.

 

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  On 4/10/2025 at 9:41 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Thank you to @jross and @Cornell Kevin for plugging holes in my data.

Here is the updated, corrected version of most dominant Hodge winners of all time. With the new data Zain Retherford hangs on to the title, but Stephen Neal knocks Ben Askren and Cael Sanderson down a peg.

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Speaking of Retherford.

His 2016 dominance score of 5.03 was higher than eventual Hodge winner, Alex Dieringer's, score of 4.76. That is the last time the Hodge winner did not have the highest dominance score.

Though it had happened prior to 2016. In 2011, Jordan Burroughs won with a dominance score of 4.61, which was only third best among finalists. Jordan Oliver (4.79) and Anthony Robles (4.64) each had higher scores.

 

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If you calculated Hodges dominance score what would it be?  

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  On 4/10/2025 at 9:41 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Thank you to @jross and @Cornell Kevin for plugging holes in my data.

Here is the updated, corrected version of most dominant Hodge winners of all time. With the new data Zain Retherford hangs on to the title, but Stephen Neal knocks Ben Askren and Cael Sanderson down a peg.

image.png.5b9d35f2bd356fe976820ed6d6d93b6b.png

Speaking of Retherford.

His 2016 dominance score of 5.03 was higher than eventual Hodge winner, Alex Dieringer's, score of 4.76. That is the last time the Hodge winner did not have the highest dominance score.

Though it had happened prior to 2016. In 2011, Jordan Burroughs won with a dominance score of 4.61, which was only third best among finalists. Jordan Oliver (4.79) and Anthony Robles (4.64) each had higher scores.

 

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Spencer Lee should get a special award for a perfect 10.0.   Even the pastrybon will support me on this.  

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  On 4/10/2025 at 9:56 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Good question.

His 1957 campaign was unparalleled. But 2017 Retherford pips him the other two years.

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His avg career #s beat everyone but Zain individual year high.  His 1957 # show why it's the Hodge award not the Retherford award.  😉

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  On 4/10/2025 at 10:02 PM, ionel said:

His avg career #s beat everyone but Zain individual year high.  His 1957 # show why it's the Hodge award not the Rutherford award.  😉

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Who is Rutherford? And why would anyone name a wrestling award after him?

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  On 4/10/2025 at 10:08 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Who is Rutherford? And why would anyone name a wrestling award after him?

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What are you talking about?  Read my post above.  But since you bring it up ... ruther rether what's the difference?  😉

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  On 4/10/2025 at 10:12 PM, ionel said:

What are you talking about?  Read my post above.  But since you bring it up ... ruther rether what's the difference?  😉

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The internet never forgets, or forgives. It is a brutish wasteland of typos.

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  On 4/1/2025 at 4:28 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:
Take the exact rankings with a grain of salt. Also consider this a cry for help.
I cannot find TF, or MD stats for 1999 Stephen Neal, 2001 Nick Ackerman, 2004 Emmett Wilson, 2007 Ben Askren, or 2010 Jayson Ness. Their dominance scores are higher than what I have hear, as a result. Any help with filling in the missing pieces would be appreciated.
I also need breakdowns between TF and MD for 1995 TJ Jaworsky, 1998 Mark Ironside, and 2013 Kyle Dake. For these I know how many combined TF/MD they had, but not the split between TF and MD. I just used a 50/50 split.
The net result is that Stephen Neal, and 2007 Ben Askren will be at or near the top if the data can be found.
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I wish I had stats for Emmett Wilson. My school wrestled MSU-Northern a few times the year he won and he was absolutely special to watch. It’s a shame he wasn’t D1. Here’s the WIN article on his hodge

https://www.win-magazine.com/win-awards/hodge-trophy/emmett-willson-2004-hodge-trophy-winner/
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  On 4/10/2025 at 10:50 PM, Yellow_Medal said:


I wish I had stats for Emmett Wilson. My school wrestled MSU-Northern a few times the year he won and he was absolutely special to watch. It’s a shame he wasn’t D1. Here’s the WIN article on his hodge

https://www.win-magazine.com/win-awards/hodge-trophy/emmett-willson-2004-hodge-trophy-winner/

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The good news is that @Cornell Kevin does have the stats for Emmet Wilson.

In 2004 he was 50-0 with 24 pinfalls, 10 tech falls, 8 majors and only 8 decisions. His was one of only 17 seasons to hit the 5.0 mark in the Hodge era. He had the most matches of any of the 17, which makes it that much more impressive.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 1:31 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:
The good news is that [mention=900]Cornell Kevin[/mention] does have the stats for Emmet Wilson.
In 2004 he was 50-0 with 24 pinfalls, 10 tech falls, 8 majors and only 8 decisions. His was one of only 17 seasons to hit the 5.0 mark in the Hodge era. He had the most matches of any of the 17, which makes it that much more impressive.

Nice! Way to go Kevin! That is indeed impressive of Wilson. He DOMINATED our heavyweight, who was very good in his own right. Thanks for putting this list together WKN
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Thx guys, glad I could help. I really have been appreciative of all the great stats and conversation in these forums on intermat. Only wish  would have started sooner!  

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  On 4/10/2025 at 9:41 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Thank you to @jross and @Cornell Kevin for plugging holes in my data.

Here is the updated, corrected version of most dominant Hodge winners of all time. With the new data Zain Retherford hangs on to the title, but Stephen Neal knocks Ben Askren and Cael Sanderson down a peg.

image.png.5b9d35f2bd356fe976820ed6d6d93b6b.png

Speaking of Retherford.

His 2016 dominance score of 5.03 was higher than eventual Hodge winner, Alex Dieringer's, score of 4.76. That is the last time the Hodge winner did not have the highest dominance score.

Though it had happened prior to 2016. In 2011, Jordan Burroughs won with a dominance score of 4.61, which was only third best among finalists. Jordan Oliver (4.79) and Anthony Robles (4.64) each had higher scores.

 

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This is incredible, thank you! 

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So....

Remember when I said to take the exact rankings with a grain of salt? Turns out that was good advice.

I committed a cardinal sin. I trusted Wikipedia. Well, the results they have for Cael Sanderson are a hot mess. Instead I should trust @Cornell Kevin.

I have spent some time putting together what I now think are accurate match by match results, including the matches that were not official. During Sanderson's four non-redshirt years wrestling D1 he won 159 straight official matches and 170 straight total matches.

Sanderson's 2002 dominance score of 5.5 moves to number 2 (number 1 among Hodge winners) on the list, ahead of 2017 Zain Retherford (5.484), but still behind 1957 Dan Hodge (5.813).

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Awesome work! Not the focus of the thread but do you happen to know how many undefeated 3-timers there were like Dan Hodge and Yojiro Uetake?

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