Iowa hits its 60% transfer starter quota again

[Perry]

5 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Cool. Your guy is also Buchanans son forever, and Buchanan is a Hawk forever - per him

Oh no, a mercenary with 3 alma maters who is a "forever hawk" beat a freshman as a senior. However will I recover from this?! I'm not even a penn state fan lol

[Perry]

Added context on Iowa reaching out to athletes on other teams

 

[Spencerlee]

Just now, Perry said:

Added context on Iowa reaching out to athletes on other teams

 

Watters camp contacted Iowa first FYI. 

[Spencerlee]

5 minutes ago, Perry said:

Oh no, a mercenary with 3 alma maters who is a "forever hawk" beat a freshman as a senior. However will I recover from this?! I'm not even a penn state fan lol

Excuses are for wusses

[Perry]

21 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Excuses are for wusses

You're right. Let me rage and smash my glasses in anger now that I know I've lost.

[Spencerlee]

1 minute ago, Perry said:

You're right. Let me rage and smash my glasses in anger now that I know I've lost.

Nah I’m going to throw a chair across the mat now that I’ve lost.

[Spladle]

32 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Watters camp contacted Iowa first FYI. 

Riiiiiiight. 

[Pinnacle]

This msg board is never short on interesting threads. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Perry said:

You're right. Let me rage and smash my glasses in anger now that I know I've lost.

Kerk mff out of NCAAs.  Not wanting to help the team.  Weird.  

[Perry]

10 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Kerk mff out of NCAAs.  Not wanting to help the team.  Weird.  

Following Spencer's lead (minus getting pinned, of course)

[Le duke]

Cool. Your guy is also Buchanans son forever, and Buchanan is a Hawk forever - per him

Here’s Aaron Brooks playing with his food, er, Buchanan:

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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Perry said:

Following Spencer's lead (minus getting pinned, of course)

Kerk wussed out for sure. 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Spencerlee said:

197 NCAA champ disagrees 

We're not serious, right?

Iowa took a kid who took two 3rds and an 8th as a Freshmen and...he beat a Penn State Freshmen in the finals. If that's the example you've got of "coaching 'em up," it's...not the strongest.

Also, '97 was probably the weakest weight this year. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

We're not serious, right?

Iowa took a kid who took two 3rds and an 8th as a Freshmen and...he beat a Penn State Freshmen in the finals. If that's the example you've got of "coaching 'em up," it's...not the strongest.

Also, '97 was probably the weakest weight this year. 

I seem to remember cstall fans hyping up the Rocco Welch final as an up and coming awesome sauce dude.  Weird taking the opposite argument all of a sudden.  

[scourge165]

12 hours ago, ionel said:

If they don't replace Arnold & Keuter then they aren't even trying.  80% go big or go home!

Kueter is going back to Football next year, no? He's a 4 star recruit as a FB player, they're losing their 3 starting backers. I think he's going to play a big role on that team...and I think that's more than likely the end of him being a realistic contender at HWT. He doesn't get in the room until sometime after Jan 1, he's beat up from Football. He doesn't have to cut, so that's good...and I have no doubt he'll be in shape, but not Wrestling shape. So he's not gonna have a ton of time.

He's also going to be draft eligible next year, so if he's as good at FB as many have said...he may just want to focus on the sport that could pay him a whole lot more money. 

[scourge165]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I seem to remember cstall fans hyping up the Rocco Welch final as an up and coming awesome sauce dude.  Weird taking the opposite argument all of a sudden.  

LOL...what does this have to do with Buchanan or how Iowa coached him up? 

And I don't know who else on this forum uses the term "awesome sauce dude," but...you find them and let 'em know...don't. 

[Coastal]

34 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Kerk mff out of NCAAs.  Not wanting to help the team.  Weird.  

Spencer Lee is balding, has bacne and took more than 4 years off of USADA testing.  Weird.

 

[1032004]

18 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I seem to remember cstall fans hyping up the Rocco Welch final as an up and coming awesome sauce dude.  Weird taking the opposite argument all of a sudden.  

I don’t remember this, most people were talking about the top half of that bracket being stacked with Starocci/Mekhi/Griffith

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t remember this, most people were talking about the top half of that bracket being stacked with Starocci/Mekhi/Griffith

It’s in that goat cstall thread.  Not looking it up to lazy. The idea was that people said his (cstall) finalists compared to other 4 timers weren’t “super stacked”.  I’m sure they used another term. 
 

the jist was that super freshmen Rocco Welch would get to the finals and win xyz # of titles thus we can’t say he had weak competition on his way to being the unanimous goat.  Paraphrasing of course.  

[scourge165]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

It’s in that goat cstall thread.  Not looking it up to lazy. The idea was that people said his (cstall) finalists compared to other 4 timers weren’t “super stacked”.  I’m sure they used another term. 
 

the jist was that super freshmen Rocco Welch would get to the finals and win xyz # of titles thus we can’t say he had weak competition on his way to being the unanimous goat.  Paraphrasing of course.  

Yeah...the "jist" of this post is that you're pulling this from up in your colon...which is fine, it's where it seems like most of your takes come from. 

I DO remember the argument being made that when you look back...and McEnally was the guy we were talking about, but IF he beat Keck and won a 5th, then he should be considered on the same level as Dake.

Not sure anyone...EVER suggested he'd be the "goat" of any type, unanimous or otherwise. Though, I will go on record now and say clearly nobody occupies more room in your particular mind as "cstall," the guy with the largest bonus rate among the Hodge finalists. 

But yeah, if that argument was made...then you go cite that exchange. Also, it's "too lazy." But I suspect you're not looking it up because it takes a LONG time to find something that doesn't exist. Just like those looking for Asgard over the Ice Wall!

[1032004]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s in that goat cstall thread.  Not looking it up to lazy. The idea was that people said his (cstall) finalists compared to other 4 timers weren’t “super stacked”.  I’m sure they used another term. 
 

the jist was that super freshmen Rocco Welch would get to the finals and win xyz # of titles thus we can’t say he had weak competition on his way to being the unanimous goat.  Paraphrasing of course.  

I have a bad memory so maybe it happened, but I don’t recall that either.   I could certainly see saying Welsh would need to be a TBD.  But the total argument doesn’t really make sense anyway, since Kemerer is one of the best to never win a title, and Mekhi did win one.  Labriola I guess may not have the best resume of finalists but he was a 4x AA.

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I have a bad memory so maybe it happened, but I don’t recall that either.   I could certainly see saying Welsh would need to be a TBD.  But the total argument doesn’t really make sense anyway, since Kemerer is one of the best to never win a title, and Mekhi did win one.  Labriola I guess may not have the best resume of finalists but he was a 4x AA.

Griffith also won one. Starocci had to beat both he and Lewis on his way to Welsh. 

This was in a debate in which Steiber was given credit for beating a 3X Champ in Retherford...and McEnally was the guy people were talking about, but of course someone could have said, 'well see how many titles McEnally, Welsh and then if ANYONE was the "super" Freshmen, it was Welsh.

 

It was NEVER how he had a "easy" run when he had a bad knee and still beat two National Champs. That's just Calvario or whatever making things up(hence why he's "to lazy to find it.'

[Spencerlee]

10 hours ago, Le duke said:

 

Here’s Aaron Brooks playing with his food, er, Buchanan:

 

 

 

 

 

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Sucks for Oklahoma I guess

Edited Monday at 12:16 PM by Spencerlee

[JimmyCinnabon]

12 hours ago, Spencerlee said:

Cool. Your guy is also Buchanans son forever, and Buchanan is a Hawk forever - per him

What does this even mean?

[JimmyCinnabon]

10 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Kueter is going back to Football next year, no? He's a 4 star recruit as a FB player, they're losing their 3 starting backers. I think he's going to play a big role on that team...and I think that's more than likely the end of him being a realistic contender at HWT. He doesn't get in the room until sometime after Jan 1, he's beat up from Football. He doesn't have to cut, so that's good...and I have no doubt he'll be in shape, but not Wrestling shape. So he's not gonna have a ton of time.

He's also going to be draft eligible next year, so if he's as good at FB as many have said...he may just want to focus on the sport that could pay him a whole lot more money. 

If Ben Keuter was as good at football as everybody has said he would not have focused on wrestling this past season. 

Edited Monday at 12:42 PM by JimmyCinnabon