Ono to PSU confirmed

[okokzach]

on FRL just now

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, okokzach said:

on FRL just now

is he wrestling folk?

[fishbane]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

is he wrestling folk?

Yes

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Very cool.  Maybe  Penn State great Sanshiro Abe can assist with translating.

[BarSeries]

Tough for Drake Ayala. Three straight 2nd place finishes??

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, BarSeries said:

Tough for Drake Ayala. Three straight 2nd place finishes??

They won't be at the same weight.  Ayala is likely moving up to 141.

[Truzzcat]

I wonder if this has any impact on blaze. I don't really think its a lineup jam either of them can go 133 or 141 the heavier Ono goes the bigger issue on the mat but we shall see.

[peanut]

Ono is much more talented than nearly all D1 wrestlers, ever.

However, he will have three significant challenges: 1) getting through his schoolwork; 2) getting by Davis and Nagao (in folkstyle); and 3) mat wrestling—most critically bottom.

Of course, other international wrestlers have done well in D1 wrestling, so there’s good reason to think he can adapt.  

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, peanut said:

Ono is much more talented than nearly all D1 wrestlers, ever.

However, he will have three significant challenges: 1) getting through his schoolwork; 2) getting by Davis and Nagao (in folkstyle); and 3) mat wrestling—most critically bottom.

Of course, other international wrestlers have done well in D1 wrestling, so there’s good reason to think he can adapt.  

Getting out on bottom will probably be the biggest challenge.  He doesn't need to develop much of a riding game...he is so good on his feet he really should be doing catch and release with everyone.

[Truzzcat]

Just now, peanut said:

Ono is much more talented than nearly all D1 wrestlers, ever.

However, he will have three significant challenges: 1) getting through his schoolwork; 2) getting by Davis and Nagao (in folkstyle); and 3) mat wrestling—most critically bottom.

Of course, other international wrestlers have done well in D1 wrestling, so there’s good reason to think he can adapt.  

he spoke about needing a visa and said he will not be back in America for a long time. I want it to be known absolutely nobody is going with this kid on their feet but folkstyle rules will allow good guys to potentially limit the damage. He is incredible and I am sure he will learn fast but I think he is going to have serious issues on the mat at least in year one if he is not training here over the summer and only has the fall to work on that. He is also probably the most scouted wrestler I can think of in recent memory. If you were asking me to pick Blaze vs Ono in folk though I am taking Blaze all day right now. I think guys like Nasir or bouzakis would be able to put up a lot of points on him from the top position as well its just hard to predict a guy that talented and skilled how quickly he can bridge that gap.

[peanut]

10 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

I wonder if this has any impact on blaze. I don't really think it’s a lineup jam either of them can go 133 or 141 the heavier Ono goes the bigger issue on the mat but we shall see.

I assume Blaze is better at folkstyle, and I’m guessing he’ll get to pick his weight class next year.

It’s not at all clear how good Ono is at folkstyle. It’s not even clear he can beat Davis or Nagao. (In freestyle, of course, only guys like Uetake and Smith are even comparable.)

Nevertheless, Blaze and Ono will only improve one another. 

Edited yesterday at 03:31 PM by peanut

[Truzzcat]

1 minute ago, peanut said:

I assume Blaze is better at folkstyle, and I’m guessing he’ll get to pick his weight class next year.

It’s not at all clear how good Ono is at folkstyle. It’s not even clear he can beat Davis or Nagao. (In freestyle, of course, he’s an astonishingly impressive talent.)

Nevertheless, Blaze and Ono will only improve one another. 

In terms of his international career my immediate thought is that this could have been a bad move for ono. Yes I think he will learn new things and get better. But there is a very real chance that in the coming years his main competition is coming from that room and they will likely have the blueprint on how to beat him.

[Elevator]

1 minute ago, Truzzcat said:

In terms of his international career my immediate thought is that this could have been a bad move for ono. Yes I think he will learn new things and get better. But there is a very real chance that in the coming years his main competition is coming from that room and they will likely have the blueprint on how to beat him.

a magic wand?

[buckshot]

If you think about it he doesn't have to figure out how to get out from bottom, he just has to figure out how to not get turned. Giving up one RT point isn't going to matter when he plays catch and release the other five minutes of a match. 

That being said, with his skills and as hard as he works he'll figure it out pretty quickly. He'll be working with some all-time hammers on top in the room (Zain, Nick Lee) which will accelerate his development. 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Oh good. PSU desperately needs another hammer.

Not able to listen to FRL at the moment but have they discussed what his eligibility is like? My understanding was that he had been in college a couple years already. Is this a 1 or 2 year stint?

 

[Truzzcat]

2 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Oh good. PSU desperately needs another hammer.

Not able to listen to FRL at the moment but have they discussed what his eligibility is like? My understanding was that he had been in college a couple years already. Is this a 1 or 2 year stint?

 

He said he did not know how long when asked.

[okokzach]

4 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Oh good. PSU desperately needs another hammer.

Not able to listen to FRL at the moment but have they discussed what his eligibility is like? My understanding was that he had been in college a couple years already. Is this a 1 or 2 year stint?

 

He is undecided on pretty much everything except that he will become NCAA champ. He isn't sure how long he'll wrestle there and he isn't sure what weight. He said Cael told him he can choose any weight he wants.

[steamboat_charlie]

Well.  Penn State was already going to win.  At least this way it might be entertaining.  

[steamboat_charlie]

[peanut]

The closer folkstyle is to freestyle, the more often you might see top international talent compete here.

It would potentially provide a new source if talent for programs like Iowa and OkSt.

To all you freestyle skeptics: just think about it 

[Wrestleknownothing]

15 minutes ago, buckshot said:

If you think about it he doesn't have to figure out how to get out from bottom, he just has to figure out how to not get turned. Giving up one RT point isn't going to matter when he plays catch and release the other five minutes of a match. 

That being said, with his skills and as hard as he works he'll figure it out pretty quickly. He'll be working with some all-time hammers on top in the room (Zain, Nick Lee) which will accelerate his development. 

Agreed. If he gets one or two first period TDs, then the only reason for his opponent to commit to a ride is if they think they can get a turn or if they just don't want to get embarrassed on their feet any longer.

That said, I could certainly see opponents going to the "Angelo Ferrari school of folkstyle wrestling when faced with a superior force" in an attempt to make it out of the first period at 0-0, so that the ride matters.

[RandolphTJones]

So I will ssume:

125: Lilledahl

133: Oh No 

141: Davis (Blaze RS)

Nagao hits the portal.

 

Let me know where i'm wrong PSU faithful. 

[NotThatDave]

40 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Tough for Drake Ayala. Three straight 2nd place finishes??

Daton doesn't want to hear it.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

So I will ssume:

125: Lilledahl

133: Oh No 

141: Davis (Blaze RS)

Nagao hits the portal.

 

Let me know where i'm wrong PSU faithful. 

Davis can redshirt too (and really should)

[peanut]

1 minute ago, RandolphTJones said:

So I will ssume:

125: Lilledahl

133: Oh No 

141: Davis (Blaze RS)

Nagao hits the portal.

 

Let me know where i'm wrong PSU faithful. 

Why would Blaze need to RS? He gave Ono his closest match last summer (between senior level and U20s). He’s ready right now, so why not let him cook?