Meyer Shapiro Steroids Accusation

[Scouts Honor]

40 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

Brock Hardy's taking on all the side-effects without getting any the benefits.

lol... he got none. but his is so small.. no calves.

we used to make fun of yanni for no traps

hardy has no calves lol

[Fletcher]

15 minutes ago, Lunaticfringe said:

Alright so let’s throw some names out. Who’s body says maybe from a physique standpoint and had a inflated performance at the end of the year?

 

Sheldon Seymour

Trevor Chumbley

Ben Kueter

Jaxon Smith

 

who are we all suspecting?

Tyler Kasak

Levi Haines

AJ Ferrari

 

We can rule out Chumbley, Keuter, and myself based only on aesthetics.

[Fletcher]

4 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

testing 

my son wrestled DII, was a part time starter

they had random testing... 

of like 30 tests

he was 'randomly' chosen 22 times

 

Bro, your son was juicing. It's time to come to Jesus. Post a pic and I'll tell you within 2 seconds.

[pokemonster]

13 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Stephen Buchanan made Josh Barr look like a 14 year old boy.  Buchanan is huge.

Lol, no he didn't. Plus Barr has gained probably 25-30 lbs of muscle in the past 2 years. 

[Scouts Honor]

LOL

he passed every time.

now if only he had passed all the forced covid tests 

[flyingcement]

It was Kasak's family that sold part of a cow to Barr so that he could bulk to 197.  I would first assume that Kasak ate the other half of the cow- before I would assume steroids

[pokemonster]

4 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

It was Kasak's family that sold part of a cow to Barr so that he could bulk to 197.  I would first assume that Kasak ate the other half of the cow- before I would assume steroids

Right... it's their special beef that did it.

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

It was Kasak's family that sold part of a cow to Barr so that he could bulk to 197.  I would first assume that Kasak ate the other half of the cow- before I would assume steroids

Steroids are far more likely to produce excessive acne in a high-end athlete than eating a lot of beef/protein.

Anabolic steroids can significantly increase sebum (oil) production by stimulating androgen receptors in the skin, leading to clogged pores and acne, often severe and cystic. They also alter hormone levels, which can make acne worse.

Eating a lot of protein, on the other hand, is unlikely to directly cause excessive acne. However, if the protein comes from dairy or whey, it might contribute to breakouts in some individuals due to hormonal effects. But the impact of protein alone is usually minimal compared to the drastic effects of steroids on the skin.

[MPhillips]

15 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

he was 'randomly' chosen 22 times

Couldn't randomly choose a regular starter 22 times...

[Scouts Honor]

Just now, MPhillips said:

Couldn't randomly choose a regular starter 22 times...

my point exactly...

he wasn't a regular starter.. a part timer... but still

4 or 5 were chosen i believe each time... 

this was over 5 years

[wrestle87]

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

This is one of the most absurd posts I've read on this board. What has Meyer done to make you take these kinds of digs at a 20 year old kid? I don't know what he did at the end of the match in question, but wow this is distasteful. Listen to his interview and listen to what the kids been through the last month. 

Learn how to read words and do a little research.  I'm sure you're all in your feelings because of something unfortunate that happened to the young man. 

I've watching enough of shapiro to know that, and this is putting it as charitably as possible, his behavior is "unpredictable" when his emotions get bigger than he knows how to control.  This is not a new thing.  In no way am saying I wish him ill, but accidents don't excuse poor behavior or being a douchebag.  They also don't excuse you from being called out for same.

Go to 1:25:40 and watch from there, you'll see enough.  

 

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

my point exactly...

he wasn't a regular starter.. a part timer... but still

4 or 5 were chosen i believe each time... 

this was over 5 years

was this testing done by the school or what? and was it always the same wrestlers chosen? others are saying in D1 they never ever got tested. 

[Hammerlock3]

28 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Stephen Buchanan made Josh Barr look like a 14 year old boy.  Buchanan is huge.

Steroidabon!

[flyingcement]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Steroids are far more likely to produce excessive acne in a high-end athlete than eating a lot of beef/protein.

Anabolic steroids can significantly increase sebum (oil) production by stimulating androgen receptors in the skin, leading to clogged pores and acne, often severe and cystic. They also alter hormone levels, which can make acne worse.

Eating a lot of protein, on the other hand, is unlikely to directly cause excessive acne. However, if the protein comes from dairy or whey, it might contribute to breakouts in some individuals due to hormonal effects. But the impact of protein alone is usually minimal compared to the drastic effects of steroids on the skin.

my sister in law is a dermatologist and a damn good one.  she mentioned a million and one reasons that someone can have an acne spike up.  to automatically assume steroids is to be mean-spirited and intentionally disparaging.  there simply isn't enough evidence

[Fletcher]

Is there any precedent to everyone thinking that PSU may turn a blind eye to some indiscretions? Any examples at all?

It doesn't even have to be wrestling. It could even be another sport.

Edited Monday at 12:18 AM by Fletcher

[MPhillips]

Just now, pokemonster said:

D1 they never ever got tested. 

DI vs the lower divisions is a pretty different environment.

[flyingcement]

Just now, Fletcher said:

Is there any precedent to everyone thinking that PSU may turn a blind eye to some indiscretions?

Any examples at all???

I don't see how a football case from decades past can be extrapolated to wrestler's taking steroids.  

[Scouts Honor]

i mean i can see the beef theory.

i was a fullback in college. Each summer when i started getting in shape i would lose weight.

before my sophomore season, i was worried... b/c i was only around 210... and it was time to start.

I just began eating my folks out of house and home.  by camp i was around 230-235

and fast, in shape and strong... coaches asked me if I was on vitamin S even. didn't test me tho.

 

i didn't juice until a few years later when i was out of college... and it didn't really do much for me.

I probably wasn't working hard enough

[wrestle87]

1 hour ago, pokemonster said:

Oof, Jacob Warner and Alex Marinelli, two high class individuals, joining in. This might be a hole they don't wanna go down for the sport... 

 

Yeah, the Iowa room DEFINITELY has never ever seen a stray needle in its time either.

This is a dumb conversation entirely.  "No wayyyyy, the NCAA doesn't test in any meaningful way because it's ultimately entertainment for pay?!"

Kids are on gear in high school and it's blatant.  Those same kids get recruited and wrestle.  We think that enrolling in college is going to DECREASE the amount that they take and have access to?

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

an acne spike up

I'm not accusing. To be fair Kasak had this acne all season didn't he?

[wrestle87]

1 hour ago, Donald said:

Multiple former Iowa wrestlers are now retweeting Shapiro comments with “shocker” comments.

Is Penn State on the EPO program or what? 

The irony in an iowa wrestler pointing a finger at a PSU wrestler is...worth observing.

Gear is everywhere.  This is professional sports.

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

my sister in law is a dermatologist and a damn good one.  she mentioned a million and one reasons that someone can have an acne spike up.  to automatically assume steroids is to be mean-spirited and intentionally disparaging.  there simply isn't enough evidence

My cousin sells peds.  And he says the opposite. 
 

most doctors test first and generalize second.  At least in my experience.  

[Scouts Honor]

4 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

was this testing done by the school or what? and was it always the same wrestlers chosen? others are saying in D1 they never ever got tested. 

wow, NEVER?  crazy

i was told it was ncaa testing... and that they  the ncaa picked... its been a few years... i dont remember all details...

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

I'm not accusing. To be fair Kasak had this acne all season didn't he?

he used to have a face

[Scouts Honor]

i always thought they had a piss test after matches at the tourney