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74 is definitely the weight to watch

  • Valiev
  • Salk
  • sidakov
  • Kurmagomedov
  • tsabolov 

Sadulaev back at 97 is exciting should mean the Taz rematch is a done deal. 

seeing no geno or taha at 125 is really weird I think one of those two has won it for the last 12+ years. I don't know anything about russia 92 or 125 and they are not good at 57 but they are probably favorites at 61,65,70,74,79,86,97

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Taha retired after the olympics. Geno is probably still enjoying that gold medal life - he isn't exactly known for being an offseason grinder.

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Posted
11 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Taha retired after the olympics. Geno is probably still enjoying that gold medal life - he isn't exactly known for being an offseason grinder.

he has 10 medals from Euros taha has 11 gold, 13 between the two of them was just more or less saying it's a changing of the guard.

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Just now, Truzzcat said:

he has 10 medals from Euros taha has 11 gold, 13 between the two of them was just more or less saying it's a changing of the guard.

Ahh my fault, thought you just hadn't heard the news. Yes it is very weird not having the two at anything. And knowing Zare has Masoumi nipping at his heels leading to a potential fully new guard is very weird indeed.

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Russian at 57kg  Mongush won U23 worlds in 2023. Looks like he recently lost to Ono’s training partner from Japan at the recent ranking series event in Muhamet Malo 8-8.

61 kg Gold - Takara Suda, JPN vs Nachyn Mongush, UWW

 

Russian at 92kg Yaraslau IADKOUSKI doesn’t have the best results from my little research

Russian at 125kg Zelimkhan KHIZRIEV recently lost to Zare in the Albania ranking series event.

 

I agree with you, 74KG will be fun to watch. The return of Sidakov!

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On 3/18/2025 at 10:04 AM, Tdub157 said:

Russian at 57kg  Mongush won U23 worlds in 2023. Looks like he recently lost to Ono’s training partner from Japan at the recent ranking series event in Muhamet Malo 8-8.

61 kg Gold - Takara Suda, JPN vs Nachyn Mongush, UWW

 

Russian at 92kg Yaraslau IADKOUSKI doesn’t have the best results from my little research

Russian at 125kg Zelimkhan KHIZRIEV recently lost to Zare in the Albania ranking series event.

 

I agree with you, 74KG will be fun to watch. The return of Sidakov!

Did mongush compete at russian nationals? I know lev pavlov won that and he has lost to Lilledahl the last two years at age level worlds which is why I was lower on that weight for them.

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29 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Did mongush compete at russian nationals? I know lev pavlov won that and he has lost to Lilledahl the last two years at age level worlds which is why I was lower on that weight for them.

not 100% sure. I see they wrestled in the finals of the Yarygin this past January and Mongus won 7-5

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So Riza ha been banned for 4 years due to doping. Unless the Turkish government pulls every string in the book ( I don't think they will for a late 30s year old athlete who has been losing a lot), he's done.  

His quote about the situation makes no sense. Riza makes the excuse that "he retired from wrestling' so he doesn't understand why they're targeting him. The only reason he "retired" is because the ban forced him to. I think he'd wrestle in these European Championships if he never got popped. 

Everything blew up in his face after he lied about retiring after Tokyo, to continue his chase for the Olympic Gold. Embarrassingly pinned in your home town hero tourney meant to celebrate you and your career, lose a world championships in the last seconds with a push out, find out the man who owns you is coming back to stop you in Paris, have UWW and the Turkish press hype you to the moon over breaking Karelin's record (they lied/made that up, he technically wouldn't have even if he did win) only to have your coronation derailed by a terrible mistake where you get thrown and pinned in the final, then gets destroyed by a young Iranian wrestler in what with hindsight is almost certainly your last match, and to finish if off get banned from the olympics for a drug violation, nullifying the reason you kept wrestling in the first place and staining your legacy as a drug cheat. 

What an unmitigated disaster, should have retired after Tokyo as the clear world nr. 2 unlucky to be in Lopez's era and just moved on to politics/bureaucracy. 

Geno's career is complete with the Olympic Gold win. He's an olympic champion, the highest honor in the sport, and no one can ever take that away from him.  He is also too old and not good enough to strive for beating wrestling's records and at the same time he's already won everything you can win. I don't know what motivates him personally and financially, but I'm not surprised to see him skip these Euros.    

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I would guess that Ramazonov from Bulgaria has to be the favorite going into this tournament at 86Kg - it will be interesting to see if he can duplicate the inspired performance he had in Paris last year.  

Posted

80% of the finalists in the European championships are of Russian wrestling region origin. And people think the new rules are too restricive.  UWW can't be loving this. 

For all the complaining about how boring and unpopular Greco is, Freestyle is at least as dead as Greco on the European mainland. 

 

Posted
40 minutes ago, GrandOlm said:

80% of the finalists in the European championships are of Russian wrestling region origin. And people think the new rules are too restricive.  UWW can't be loving this. 

For all the complaining about how boring and unpopular Greco is, Freestyle is at least as dead as Greco on the European mainland. 

 

15 of 20 actually, but still a staggering amount. 

Posted
3 hours ago, GrandOlm said:

80% of the finalists in the European championships are of Russian wrestling region origin. And people think the new rules are too restricive.  UWW can't be loving this. 

For all the complaining about how boring and unpopular Greco is, Freestyle is at least as dead as Greco on the European mainland. 

 

This has been my complaint for a while. It's ruining the sport entirely how else can other countries develop their guys if Russian imports are being brought in. Even some Iranians are now wrestling for countries like Spain and Germany too. 

Posted (edited)

All but one finalist (Nachyn Mongush of Tuva, a region close to Mongolia, so Asia) are from the Caucasus region - Dagestan, Ossetia, Georgia and Armenia. The Azeri finalists are also transplants. 

Turkey in particulare has regressed spectacularly, and bona fide Europe is basically done with freestyle, there's nothing you can do about it.

Sorry there is also Chechnya - all the "French" wrestlers are Chechen migrants into France. They are a bit different from other transplants, as they have moved to France in childhood or were even born there (so are 2nd gen migrrants) from the 1990s Cheechen war. 

As for others like -- Tuskaev, Abakarov, Valiev, Kurugliev, Tazhudinov, Shapiev, Osman Nurmagomedov, Salkazanov, Tsabolov, Ramazanov, tens of others --- these are basically Dagestanis or Ossetians with passports of other countries. They have little or no connection with the country they represent. 

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70kg
Arman ANDREASYAN (ARM)
Benedikt HUBER (AUT)
Kanan HEYBATOV (AZE)
Ibragim VELIEV (BEL)
Mihail GEORGIEV (BUL)
Akaki KEMERTELIDZE (GEO)
Iszmail MUSZUKAJEV (HUN)
Vasile DIACON (MDA)
Fati VEJSELI (MKD)
Patryk OLENCZYN (POL)
Viktor VOINOVIC (SRB)
Haydar YAVUZ (TUR)
Oleksii BORUTA (UKR)
George KOLIEV (UWW)
David BAEV (UWW)

Ah, ha! Muz going up a weight class... a move to having a bit more energy to last the whole match?

(... as long as he cuts his smoking down below 2 packs a day.😏 )

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Posted
4 hours ago, D3 for LU said:

70kg
Arman ANDREASYAN (ARM)
Benedikt HUBER (AUT)
Kanan HEYBATOV (AZE)
Ibragim VELIEV (BEL)
Mihail GEORGIEV (BUL)
Akaki KEMERTELIDZE (GEO)
Iszmail MUSZUKAJEV (HUN)
Vasile DIACON (MDA)
Fati VEJSELI (MKD)
Patryk OLENCZYN (POL)
Viktor VOINOVIC (SRB)
Haydar YAVUZ (TUR)
Oleksii BORUTA (UKR)
George KOLIEV (UWW)
David BAEV (UWW)

Ah, ha! Muz going up a weight class... a move to having a bit more energy to last the whole match?

(... as long as he cuts his smoking down below 2 packs a day.😏 )

D3

Baev smoked him and looked very good all tournament.

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Posted (edited)

I watched the  Iszmail MUSZUKAJEV (HUN)    match and was like everyone else wondering why he is on the mat in such condition. I tuned in last night to see replays and see he was going for a bronze against formidable younger opponent .   I was amazed at how close he kept the match barely able to get off his feet on stoppages, then showing a quick burst. He was down 5-0 but with 30 seconds left was able to hit a lightning duck to double TD and if he had anything left might have got to a head between the legs lace.  I didn't think he should be there and now I don't want him to go away!

Correct Baev looks great especially that gold match

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On 4/9/2025 at 11:07 AM, Truzzcat said:

Kadi vs Ramazonov I believe is a rematch of a 79kg russian nats bout back in the day which I believe Kadi won.

How in the world is Kadi as thick as he is already, he was 74kg at the Olympics last year and he looked as bulked out as Ramazonov.

 

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