Tripnsweep Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Literally within hours the court strikes him down. I could imagine the comments if Biden did something like that towards the J6 terrorists. Fortunately we have some checks and balances left.
red viking Posted March 16 Posted March 16 On 3/16/2025 at 1:48 AM, Tripnsweep said: Literally within hours the court strikes him down. I could imagine the comments if Biden did something like that towards the J6 terrorists. Fortunately we have some checks and balances left. Expand It's ridiculous that the courts have to keep stepping in. He's wasting time and tax dollars for too many attorneys and judges and people are suffering consequences for his negligence before courts can step in. He shouldn't be able to just violate the constitution on a daily basis without any consequences.
Tripnsweep Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 On 3/16/2025 at 2:03 AM, Offthemat said: The judge will be overturned. Expand We aren't at war so it's unnecessary to invoke that. The last time it was done was during WW2. It isn't about combating crime either, it's just a thinly veiled excuse to expedite deportations.
WrestlingRasta Posted March 16 Posted March 16 It wasn’t strikes down so much as stayed. Brought to a halt for 14 days so they can have their hearings.
Tripnsweep Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 But she probably said something negative about Trump. https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2025/03/16/rhode-island-doctor-rasha-alawieh-deported-despite-federal-court-order/82466816007/
Offthemat Posted March 17 Posted March 17 The law: Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government…. The Order: Tren de Aragua (TdA) is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization with thousands of members, many of whom have unlawfully infiltrated the United States and are conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the United States. TdA operates in conjunction with Cártel de los Soles, the Nicolas Maduro regime-sponsored, narco-terrorism enterprise based in Venezuela, and commits brutal crimes, including murders, kidnappings, extortions, and human, drug, and weapons trafficking. TdA has engaged in and continues to engage in mass illegal migration to the United States to further its objectives of harming United States citizens, undermining public safety, and supporting the Maduro regime’s goal of destabilizing democratic nations in the Americas, including the United States. TdA is closely aligned with, and indeed has infiltrated, the Maduro regime, including its military and law enforcement apparatus. TdA grew significantly while Tareck El Aissami served as governor of Aragua between 2012 and 2017. In 2017, El Aissami was appointed as Vice President of Venezuela. Soon thereafter, the United States Department of the Treasury designated El Aissami as a Specially Designated Narcotics Trafficker under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act, 21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq. El Aissami is currently a United States fugitive facing charges arising from his violations of United States sanctions triggered by his Department of the Treasury designation. Like El Aissami, Nicolas Maduro, who claims to act as Venezuela’s President and asserts control over the security forces and other authorities in Venezuela, also maintains close ties to regime-sponsored narco-terrorists. Maduro leads the regime-sponsored enterprise Cártel de los Soles, which coordinates with and relies on TdA and other organizations to carry out its objective of using illegal narcotics as a weapon to “flood” the United States. In 2020, Maduro and other regime members were charged with narcoterrorism and other crimes in connection with this plot against America. Over the years, Venezuelan national and local authorities have ceded ever-greater control over their territories to transnational criminal organizations, including TdA. The result is a hybrid criminal state that is perpetrating an invasion of and predatory incursion into the United States, and which poses a substantial danger to the United States. Indeed, in December 2024, INTERPOL Washington confirmed: “Tren de Aragua has emerged as a significant threat to the United States as it infiltrates migration flows from Venezuela.”… I find and declare that TdA is perpetrating, attempting, and threatening an invasion or predatory incursion against the territory of the United States. TdA is undertaking hostile actions and conducting irregular warfare against the territory of the United States both directly and at the direction, clandestine or otherwise, of the Maduro regime in Venezuela. I make these findings using the full extent of my authority to conduct the Nation’s foreign affairs under the Constitution. They are aliens and they are the enemy, and for the life of me, I cannot understand why dimocrats want them to stay here. 1 1
Tripnsweep Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 That's literally just what Trump has said. Also there's probably at least a dozen or so gangs that do the same exact things, and none of them are stupid enough to actually declare war against the US. You might as well declare the same thing about the Russian Mafia present in this country.
Husker_Du Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/16/2025 at 1:54 AM, red viking said: It's ridiculous that the courts have to keep stepping in. Expand they don't HAVE to step in. they do because they are activists instead of judges. On 3/16/2025 at 1:54 AM, red viking said: He's wasting time and tax dollars for too many attorneys and judges and people are suffering consequences for his negligence before courts can step in. Expand oh the irony. all the judge-activist did was make this more expensive. the order will go thru. 1 1 1 TBD
Tripnsweep Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 7:12 AM, Husker_Du said: they don't HAVE to step in. they do because they are activists instead of judges. oh the irony. all the judge-activist did was make this more expensive. the order will go thru. Expand There's this thing called due process, where you can't circumvent people's rights by just saying that they're something. Like if I called you a balding, mentally challenged man child, and used that as an excuse to keep you away from high schools, it might be incorrect because even if some of that is true, claiming that you are cruising for K9 action online might not be completely accurate. So you'd at least have a chance to explain that your thing is sock puppets. You'd probably still be told you have to be more than 200 feet away, but at least you'd have your say.
Husker_Du Posted March 17 Posted March 17 they were in the country illegally, confucius. deuces. 2 TBD
Tripnsweep Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 10:43 AM, Husker_Du said: they were in the country illegally, confucius. deuces. Expand That doesn't mean people aren't entitled to due process and having their rights violated.
Husker_Du Posted March 17 Posted March 17 due process of what? what rights were violated? they were here illegally. they can be deported. 3 TBD
Bigbrog Posted March 17 Posted March 17 If you are outraged only because they are getting deported and not that they came into the country illegally, then you are the problem. 4
Offthemat Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 5:56 AM, Tripnsweep said: That's literally just what Trump has said. Also there's probably at least a dozen or so gangs that do the same exact things, and none of them are stupid enough to actually declare war against the US. You might as well declare the same thing about the Russian Mafia present in this country. Expand Why do you want the terrorists to stay here, roaming our streets, your neighborhood? 3
Scouts Honor Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 5:56 AM, Tripnsweep said: That's literally just what Trump has said. Also there's probably at least a dozen or so gangs that do the same exact things, and none of them are stupid enough to actually declare war against the US. You might as well declare the same thing about the Russian Mafia present in this country. Expand so in other words... trump quoted the law?
Offthemat Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 1:29 PM, Husker_Du said: due process of what? what rights were violated? they were here illegally. they can be deported. Expand And the first group has been:
Le duke Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 7:12 AM, Husker_Du said: they don't HAVE to step in. they do because they are activists instead of judges. oh the irony. all the judge-activist did was make this more expensive. the order will go thru. Expand No, they have to step in because attorneys acting on behalf of people a legal interest file lawsuits. The judges themselves aren't "stepping in"; they aren't filing lawsuits on behalf of anyone.
Le duke Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 2:13 PM, Offthemat said: Why do you want the terrorists to stay here, roaming our streets, your neighborhood? Expand If I'm president, and I declare you a terrorist, does that make it so?
Le duke Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 10:43 AM, Husker_Du said: they were in the country illegally, confucius. deuces. Expand How do you know they were in the country illegally?
Bigbrog Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 4:19 PM, Le duke said: If I'm president, and I declare you a terrorist, does that make it so? Expand If he meets the criteria of a terrorist
Bigbrog Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 4:24 PM, Le duke said: How do you know they were in the country illegally? Expand Easy...when ICE picks them up and they have all the appropriate paperwork and documents they are let go...I answered even though I know you were being obtuse.
Le duke Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/17/2025 at 4:28 PM, Bigbrog said: If he meets the criteria of a terrorist Expand So, he doesn't have to be tried in a criminal court? The president can just declare anyone he wants a terrorist, and have them deported, imprisoned, killed?
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