Pins at NCAA's - how many will Penn State get?

[AgaveMaria]

Penn State under Sanderson is known for bonus points at the Big Dance.

Nothing like Pins to rack them up.

How many will their guys get overall this time around?

Not Technical Falls, but the real thing.

[BarSeries]

For reference, it looks like they had 6 pins last year. 

Edited Friday at 09:21 PM by BarSeries

[BarSeries]

I will say 7 pins

[ionel]

Wkn says none.  

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

4

[SocraTease]

Despite having a virtual Murderer's Row from 141 to 285, this team is not big on pinning. 

Not like guys in the past: DT, Nolf, Nickal, Retherford, Ruth, Hall, and Q. Wright:

https://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/career-falls-leaders/

The guys at 149, 174, 184, 197, and 285 might have the best chance of getting falls in the early rounds. 

Here are the number of pins for this season:

Barr 6

Van Ness 5

Haines  7

Starocci 6

Kerkviliet 5

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BB 3

TK 3

LL 1

MM 0 (Tech falls, yes, by all means)

BD 0

Edited Saturday at 03:24 AM by SocraTease

[flyingcement]

Kerk will grab a couple.  You're right though - it's not a pinning team even as dominant as they are

[MizzouFan01]

Are we setting the O/U at 5.5?

[Wrestleknownothing]

38 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

Despite having a virtual Murderer's Row from 141 to 285, this team is not big on pinning. 

Not like guys in the past: DT, Nolf, Nickal, Retherford, Ruth, Hall, and Q. Wright:

https://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/career-falls-leaders/

The guys at 149, 174, 184, 197, and 285 might have the best chance of getting falls in the early rounds. 

Here are the number of pins for this season:

Barr 6

Van Ness 5

Haines  7

Starocci 6

Kerkviliet 5

-----

BB 3

TK 3

LL 1

MM 0 (Tech falls, yes, by all means)

BD 0

Here is the funny thing about pinfalls. They are very unpredictable. Last year, like this year, PSU were not big pinfellers in the regular season, but they still put up 6 at the tournament.

The 2018 team that had six of their all-time pinfall leaders (Nolf #1, Nickal #2, Retherford #3, Hall #7, Rasheed #16, and Joseph #22) only recorded 4 pinfalls in the tournament.

But then the same group got 9 the next year with 4 of them coming from guys not in the top 25 all-time for PSU.

Edited Saturday at 04:02 AM by Wrestleknownothing

[flyingcement]

10 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Here is the funny thing about pinfalls. They are very unpredictable. Last year, like this year, PSU were not big pinfellers in the regular season, but they still put up 6 at the tournament.

The 2018 team that had six of their all-time pinfall leaders (Nolf #1, Nickal #2, Retherford #3, Hall #7, Rasheed #16, and Joseph #22) only recorded 4 pinfalls in the tournament.

But then the same group got 9 the next year with 4 of them coming from guys not in the top 25 all-time for PSU.

That's true- Bartlett was on a pinning tear if I remember correctly last year

[SocraTease]

8 of Penn State's 10 wrestlers have their first match in the quarters so that makes the pin count much tougher to accumulate b/c they are up against relatively tough opponents usually.  And the other two guys at 125 and 133 (who have round of 16 matches) are not pinners.

In some ways, it is probably easier to pin at NCAAs because of softer early round opponents and also the consolation matches.  Plus, guys might wrestle more conservatively at BIG 10s because your first goal is to make the Big Dance, whereas at NCAAs more fur may fly since it is a last chance to do or die

 

[SocraTease]

3 pins so far.  It gets harder from here

[SocraTease]

Stats List Most Pins Least Time Most Tech Falls Least Time Most Pins/Tech Falls Least Time Most Total Match Points Largest Seed-Place Difference

Division Most pins and techfalls:

	Team	Falls	Total Time
1	Nebraska	8	34:12
2	Penn State	5	21:00
3	Ohio State	4	19:21
4	Iowa	4	22:30
5	Michigan	3	4:08
6	Maryland	3	14:14
7	Illinois	3	15:23
8	Purdue	3	18:08
9	Minnesota	1	5:50
10	Wisconsin	1	6:45

[ionel]

17 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Here is the funny thing about pinfalls. 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:34 PM by ionel

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, SocraTease said:

3 pins so far.  It gets harder from here

They have 0 so far at NCAAs.