Pac-12 Tournament Today

[Idaho]

True seconds only happen if the 2nd place finisher has not wrestled the 3rd place finisher. If they have already wrestled they don't wrestle the match. I would be surprised if they show the true seconds. In years past they have not. 

[Idaho]

26 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

What time is the 197 final going to be?  Like 1am Eastern?

To see AJ gas in the 3rd and lose a close match to Little after predicting he would major Little and tech Munoz, tune in at around 10:30 ET. 

[D3 for LU]

Will that be followed w/ him doing splits and (again) double flipping off the crowd? 

D3

[SetonHallPirate]

19 minutes ago, Idaho said:

True seconds only happen if the 2nd place finisher has not wrestled the 3rd place finisher. If they have already wrestled they don't wrestle the match. I would be surprised if they show the true seconds. In years past they have not. 

Flo has already mentioned they will be showing the true seconds. They aren't clueless about wrestling the way the Pac-12 Network used to be.

[Idaho]

58 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Will that be followed w/ him doing splits and (again) double flipping off the crowd? 

D3

I am really hoping the crowd is on him so we can get some good reactions. 

[nhs67]

True seconds entirely favoe the 3rd place guy trying to wrestle up, right?  Since the 2nd placers would have wrestled considerably more recent as well ss the downer of coming off a losd VS a win...

Not digging that.

[flyingcement]

Just now, nhs67 said:

True seconds entirely favoe the 3rd place guy trying to wrestle up, right?  Since the 2nd placers would have wrestled considerably more recent as well ss the downer of coming off a losd VS a win...

Not digging that.

Hadn't thought about it but as you explain the impacts, it does sound very much that the loser of the finals will have a significant disadvantage.

[flyingcement]

24 minutes ago, Idaho said:

I am really hoping the crowd is on him so we can get some good reactions. 

are you there Idaho?

[nhs67]

4 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Hadn't thought about it but as you explain the impacts, it does sound very much that the loser of the finals will have a significant disadvantage.

The 3rd place matches have been over for 15 minutes or so.

They won't start the finals for another two hours (exactly).  They are starting at HWT so they can end with Focus-Little.

By the time that match is over, it will be another hour and a half (guess), or so.  So in 3.5-4.0 hours, Focus could have to turn around a half hour-ish later to wrestle a Munoz that has had ~4.5 hours of rest and recovery in prep for Focus.

Not fair.

Edited Friday at 01:32 AM by nhs67

[nhs67]

Eh, they have three NQ at 197, so they might not wrestle that?

There are a few weights they have 2 NQ, correct?  Those weights have to potentially suffer that scenario.

[flyingcement]

Just now, nhs67 said:

Eh, they have three NQ at 197, so they might not wrestle that?

There are a few weights they have 2 NQ, correct?  Those weights have to potentially suffer that scenario.

125, 133, and HWT 

[Idaho]

14 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

are you there Idaho?

Unfortunately not.... the Thursday did not work out for work and time off.  First one I have missed in a while. I'm Floing like everyone else. 

[Idaho]

If Renteria wins at 125 - Holman will have to wrestle Castro-Sandoval for true 2nd. If Holman wins there will be no true 2nd since Renteria beat CS.

If Romney beats Bailey then Bailey will have to wrestle Elliot for true 2nd. If Bailey wins it''s done since Romney beat Elliot 

If Tinker beats Andrews then Andrews will have to wrestle Mower for true 2nd. If Andrews wins then it's done since Tinker beat Mower.

No team points added for true 2nd.

Little Rock 69.5

Oregon State 69.5

Cal Poly 66

Cal State 44

[flyingcement]

This has been a totally different match than the last time these guys faced off

[Idaho]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

This has been a totally different match than the last time these guys faced off

Yeah- Renteria looked really focused and active. He has been shutting down early, but the last few matches he has been going to the whistle. I am also glad he kept the guns in the holster after the match. 

[flyingcement]

Something tells me that Bailey and Romney will face off again in Nationals as well.  

[Idaho]

Yeah I think so too.... Romney has really jumped levels this year. 

Singleton looking good in the finals. He has really upped his game the second half of the season. 

Williams vs Stiles next. Should be a good one. 

[Show_Me]

Williams with a total of 6 Takedowns vs none against Lamer & Stiles.  Very impressive !  Could make some real noise in Philly. 

[flyingcement]

 

[Idaho]

10 minutes ago, Show_Me said:

Williams with a total of 6 Takedowns vs none against Lamer & Stiles.  Very impressive !  Could make some real noise in Philly. 

Williams has looked really good today. 

[flyingcement]

Someone needs to do a detailed breakdown either in article or documentary - that describes how Little Rock was capable of becoming so good so quickly

[flyingcement]

Brennan twisting off Menke's head like a bottle cap from a cold drink

[WisKyBoys]

How about those Trojans. Congratulations Coach Erisman

[flyingcement]

wow McDonnell!!!

[Idaho]

2 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

wow McDonnell!!!

He has shown flashes all season but could not put it all together.