Scouts Honor Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/12/2025 at 7:21 AM, 666 said: I wonder how many teacher/coaches will lose their jobs? The DOE does not employ any... so none. 1
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/13/2025 at 8:01 PM, Scouts Honor said: The DOE does not employ any... so none. Department of Energy? Why would they?
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 30 minutes ago, fishbane said: Department of Energy? Why would they? Dept. of Education.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 16 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Dept. of Education. The Department of Energy, being the older department, had dibs on DOE as their official abbreviation. The Department of Education had to settle for the far less desirable ED as their official abbreviation.
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 29 minutes ago, fishbane said: The Department of Energy, being the older department, had dibs on DOE as their official abbreviation. The Department of Education had to settle for the far less desirable ED as their official abbreviation. Do a search for DOE news and see what you get.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 12 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Do a search for DOE news and see what you get. Top hit is www.energy.gov. Second is the wikipedia page for the Department of Energy. The Department of Education website, www.ed.gov, appears at #4 where the description uses the correct abbreviation, "Learn About the Department of Education. ED is America's education agency."
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 1 hour ago, jross said: tDOE Tennessee department of education.
jross Posted March 17 Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Tennessee department of education. small t
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, jross said: small t I put tDOE in the search. Try it.
jross Posted March 17 Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Offthemat said: I put tDOE in the search. Try it. Its a joke, like tOSU.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 26 minutes ago, Offthemat said: I put tDOE in the search. Try it. Why don't you try searching for the Department of Education's actual abbreviation, ED?
Scouts Honor Posted March 17 Posted March 17 11 hours ago, fishbane said: Department of Energy? Why would they? what is it with you and semantics
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 33 minutes ago, fishbane said: Why don't you try searching for the Department of Education's actual abbreviation, ED? Because I get similar results using the same acronym most everyone else uses - DOE.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: willfully obtuse Lol to me that was this response On 3/13/2025 at 8:01 PM, Scouts Honor said: The DOE does not employ any... so none. If this were referring to the Department of Education, ED, then the conclusion isn't true. A majority of the ED's budget goes to Federal Aid programs for higher education - college grants, loans, work-study funds, ect. The second largest item is grants to K-12 schools. The ED also directly funds a few institutions like Gallaudet University and the NTID. If the ED ceased to exist and all that funding went away many people who teach both at the college and primary/secondary education schools would lose their jobs. The money to pay them would have gone with the ED. Enrollment would drop off at universities across the country as many student could not afford to go. Some Universities would fail and others would have layoffs. You can't really replace the $160 billion the ED puts into colleges and universities with additional tuition. Even if you could at a minimum Gaulladet and the NTID would face massive cuts in staff.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 16 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Because I get similar results using the same acronym most everyone else uses - DOE. After sifting through the sites related to the actual DOE (Department of Energy).
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, fishbane said: After sifting through the sites related to the actual DOE (Department of Energy). Three of the top four were education.
Bigbrog Posted March 17 Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, fishbane said: Lol to me that was this response If this were referring to the Department of Education, ED, then the conclusion isn't true. A majority of the ED's budget goes to Federal Aid programs for higher education - college grants, loans, work-study funds, ect. The second largest item is grants to K-12 schools. The ED also directly funds a few institutions like Gallaudet University and the NTID. If the ED ceased to exist and all that funding went away many people who teach both at the college and primary/secondary education schools would lose their jobs. The money to pay them would have gone with the ED. Enrollment would drop off at universities across the country as many student could not afford to go. Some Universities would fail and others would have layoffs. You can't really replace the $160 billion the ED puts into colleges and universities with additional tuition. Even if you could at a minimum Gaulladet and the NTID would face massive cuts in staff. Everything I have read and heard about this is that it is not about stopping the funding for those programs but rather the money that currently goes to the Federal ED would be given to the State ED's who thus would have a better understanding and know how to spend the funds for their students.
fishbane Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Bigbrog said: Everything I have read and heard about this is that it is not about stopping the funding for those programs but rather the money that currently goes to the Federal ED would be given to the State ED's who thus would have a better understanding and know how to spend the funds for their students. That makes sense for k-12, but who would administer the FAFSA and associated aid in such a system? Musk had said of the Department of Education that “No such department exists in the federal government” seeming to indicate that the ED wouldn't be around to do that.
Scouts Honor Posted March 17 Posted March 17 wondering which department the post i replied to had inferred
Bigbrog Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, fishbane said: That makes sense for k-12, but who would administer the FAFSA and associated aid in such a system? Musk had said of the Department of Education that “No such department exists in the federal government” seeming to indicate that the ED wouldn't be around to do that. Good question...I am not exactly sure...again from what I have read and seen, the states would have a system to do that...but who really knows. Guess we will have to wait and see what comes of it all.
Offthemat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 Judge says Fani Willis violated open records law, orders her to pay $54K in attorneys' fees A judge has ordered Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to pay more than $54,000 in attorneys’ fees and to turn over documents after finding that her office violated Georgia’s Open Records Act https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/judge-fani-willis-violated-open-records-law-orders-119888183
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