Question About USAID

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 2/10/2025 at 8:18 PM, red viking said:

That leaves the jews. Yes. Generally wealthy and they get your tax money. 

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What a crazy world.  Anti-semitic guy using Nordic imagery for his avatar while accusing other of Nazism.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/northern-europe/nazis-scandinavia

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:01 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

What a crazy world.  Anti-semitic guy using Nordic imagery for his avatar while accusing other of Nazism.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/northern-europe/nazis-scandinavia

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It's 100% predictable that anytime somebody criticizes Israel, the wingers will come out of the woodwork like pitbulls on the pant leg of opportunity to cry antisemitism. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:45 PM, red viking said:

It's 100% predictable that anytime somebody criticizes Israel, the wingers will come out of the woodwork like pitbulls on the pant leg of opportunity to cry antisemitism. 

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But you are basically a wannabe Nazi.  Really you are.  The imagery is on point.  The rhetoric is on point... you were literally criticizing Jews, not Israel as a whole.

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:48 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

But you are basically a wannabe Nazi.  Really you are.  The imagery is on point.  The rhetoric is on point... you were literally criticizing Jews, not Israel as a whole.

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Yet another right-wing lie. A winger asked me if "all Jews are wealthy?" Another pathetic attempt at a winger trap. I've seen this b.s. a milion times. Constantly trying to get people to look anti-semitic. I clarified that the Jewish people in Israel are GENERALLY wealthy. First of all, it isn't all, but generally. Secondly, this is in Israel specifically. Israel is a wealthy country but the Palestinians are treated like dog crap. The wingers want to take even more land away from them, but then accuse people of anti-semitism if we oppose it. 

The hypocrisy of the right...you can't even make this stuff up. 

[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:48 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

But you are basically a wannabe Nazi.  Really you are.  The imagery is on point.  The rhetoric is on point... you were literally criticizing Jews, not Israel as a whole.

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You compared Jews to being mostly wealthy.  Pretty pretty racist dude.   I’m surprised your other lefty friends haven’t told you that yet.   

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 5:41 PM, Caveira said:

You compared Jews to being mostly wealthy.  Pretty pretty racist dude.   I’m surprised your other lefty friends haven’t told you that yet.   

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Yet another lie. I said the Jews in Israel are mostly wealthy, and only after a winger asked me about them, specifically. I merelly answered the question. 

Your attempted traps are pathetic. 

[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:06 PM, red viking said:

Yet another lie. I said the Jews in Israel are mostly wealthy, and only after a winger asked me about them, specifically. I merelly answered the question. 

Your attempted traps are pathetic. 

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The court of chat gpt disagrees.   Be a better human sir….

Yes, saying that "Jews are mostly wealthy in the state of Israel" can be problematic because it reinforces a broad generalization about an entire group of people.

Here’s why it could be considered stereotypical or even discriminatory:

• It ignores economic diversity: Like any country, Israel has a range of financial situations—some people are wealthy, some are middle class, and many struggle with poverty.
• It plays into historical stereotypes: Associating Jewish people with wealth has been a long-standing stereotype that has been used in harmful ways throughout history.
• It oversimplifies reality: Israel has significant economic challenges, including high living costs, income inequality, and diverse socio-economic conditions among different communities.

If the goal is to discuss wealth distribution in Israel, it’s better to look at actual economic data rather than make broad claims. Would you like some real stats on Israel’s economy?

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:09 PM, Caveira said:

The court of chat gpt disagrees.   Be a better human sir….

 

Yes, saying that "Jews are mostly wealthy in the state of Israel" can be problematic because it reinforces a broad generalization about an entire group of people.

Here’s why it could be considered stereotypical or even discriminatory:

• It ignores economic diversity: Like any country, Israel has a range of financial situations—some people are wealthy, some are middle class, and many struggle with poverty.
• It plays into historical stereotypes: Associating Jewish people with wealth has been a long-standing stereotype that has been used in harmful ways throughout history.
• It oversimplifies reality: Israel has significant economic challenges, including high living costs, income inequality, and diverse socio-economic conditions among different communities.

If the goal is to discuss wealth distribution in Israel, it’s better to look at actual economic data rather than make broad claims. Would you like some real stats on Israel’s economy?

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You must be pretty dumb because, as you indicated, I qualified it with the word "generally." That acknowledges that there are plenty of non-wealthy Jews in Israel. 

Also, my whole point was that we are giving aid to a wealthy country, or nation. Do you know what that means? It had nothing to do with whether most of them happened to be Jewish. That's something that a winger brought up. The wingers are fixated on the Jewish religion in Israel. I'm focused on the country itself and their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.  

FAIL. 

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[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:12 PM, red viking said:

You must be pretty dumb because, as you indicated, I qualified it with the word "generally." That acknowledges that there are plenty of non-wealthy Jews in Israel. 

Also, my whole point was that we are giving aid to a wealthy country, or nation. Do you know what that means? It had nothing to do with whether most of them happened to be Jewish. That's something that a winger brought up. The wingers are fixated on the Jewish religion in Israel. I'm focused on the country itself. 

FAIL. 

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Char gpt says generally wealthy is racist af too.    Be a better human.  
 

Yes, saying "Jews are generally wealthy in the state of Israel" can be problematic because it makes a broad generalization about an entire group of people.

Here’s why it could be considered stereotypical or misleading:

1. It ignores economic diversity – Israel, like any country, has a range of wealth levels. Many people are wealthy, but others face financial struggles. Around 20% of Israelis live below the poverty line, including both Jewish and non-Jewish populations.
2. It plays into historical stereotypes – Associating Jewish people with wealth has been a common stereotype used in discriminatory ways.
3. It oversimplifies Israel’s economy – Israel has high living costs, economic inequality, and a mix of financial situations across different communities (e.g., ultra-Orthodox Jews and Israeli Arabs often have lower average incomes).

Instead of generalizing, a more accurate way to discuss this would be to look at actual economic data about wealth distribution in Israel. Would you like some real stats?

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:16 PM, Caveira said:

Char gpt says generally wealthy is racist af too.    Be a better human.  
 

 

Yes, saying "Jews are generally wealthy in the state of Israel" can be problematic because it makes a broad generalization about an entire group of people.

Here’s why it could be considered stereotypical or misleading:

1. It ignores economic diversity – Israel, like any country, has a range of wealth levels. Many people are wealthy, but others face financial struggles. Around 20% of Israelis live below the poverty line, including both Jewish and non-Jewish populations.
2. It plays into historical stereotypes – Associating Jewish people with wealth has been a common stereotype used in discriminatory ways.
3. It oversimplifies Israel’s economy – Israel has high living costs, economic inequality, and a mix of financial situations across different communities (e.g., ultra-Orthodox Jews and Israeli Arabs often have lower average incomes).

Instead of generalizing, a more accurate way to discuss this would be to look at actual economic data about wealth distribution in Israel. Would you like some real stats?

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the big problem here is that it is based upon what somebody asked me about, specifically. That changes the whole issue. I can and should answer the question instead of playing dodgeball like the wingers ALWAYS (not even generally) do. 

Now, if I started a thread that tried to point out that Jewish people in Israel are "generally wealthy," that would be a completely different situation. 

Do you understand now? Since you can't think for yourself apparently, maybe you can enter that important information into your ChatGPT conversation. 

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[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:21 PM, red viking said:

the big problem here is that it is based upon what somebody asked me about, specifically. That changes the whole issue. I can and should answer the question instead of playing dodgeball like the wingers ALWAYS (not even generally) do. 

Now, if I started a thread that tried to point out that Jewish people in Israel are "generally wealthy," that would be a completely different situation. 

Do you understand now? 

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Nope.  

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:22 PM, Caveira said:

Nope.  

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Well, you can run, but unfortunately, you can't hide. Therefore, I'm going to keep coming after you. 

Somebody asked me about the wealth of the Jews in Israel. I made a factual statement. Israel is a wealthy country, while the Palestinians in that country, on average, are extremely poor. That means that the rest of the population, in general, also has above-average wealth,. What is the predominant religion of the rest of that population? 

Did I make an incorrect statement in answering the question? 

[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:22 PM, Caveira said:

Nope.  

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Here's a similar discussion that maybe you could relate to more. 

A liberal asks a winger "are all black people criminals?"

The winger says "Blacks are convicted of crimes at a higher rate than whites." 

Liberal says "you must be a racist" 

[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:41 PM, red viking said:

Here's a similar discussion that maybe you could relate to more. 

A liberal asks a winger "are all black people criminals?"

The winger says "Blacks are convicted of crimes at a higher rate than whites." 

Liberal says "you must be a racist" 

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Be a better human man.   

[Bigbrog]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:50 PM, Caveira said:

Be a better human man.   

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He has repeatedly shown that that isn't possible.

[ionel]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:41 PM, red viking said:

A liberal asks a winger ...

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Is this you talking to yourself?

[mspart]

The first sign that someone is racist is when they say they are not racist.   How many times have we heard that?  NOw that the shoe is on the other foot, it doesn't feel so good.

mspart

[Offthemat]

 

[mspart]

Was there a reason to believe he was going to be a future terrorist?   Does USAID normally pay tuition for people?  If not, why did this guy  get tuition?

mspart

[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 10:00 PM, mspart said:

Was there a reason to believe he was going to be a future terrorist?   Does USAID normally pay tuition for people?  If not, why did this guy  get tuition?

mspart

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Dunno?   Are these true?

 

[mspart]

That waascowey AOC.

msp

[Caveira]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:06 PM, red viking said:

Yet another lie. I said the Jews in Israel are mostly wealthy, and only after a winger asked me about them, specifically. I merelly answered the question. 

Your attempted traps are pathetic. 

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You started the thread out saying per capita Jews are wealthy.

here is your unprompted racist quote.   No one asked you to start this thread.

“Have we stopped wastefully sending our hard earned taxpayer dollars to Israel, or is this very wealthy country (per capita, Jewish population) exempt from DOGE while the poorer countries get completely cut off? “

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[Lipdrag]

Guys, quit being idiots (I know this is a tall order - which I say as a contributing idiot to this forum).

It is asinine to call it racist to notice that world class sprinters and NBA players overwhelmingly have similar melanin levels.  It is also asinine to call it racist to observe that Jews are very much more successful and have more influence in every society in which they reside than their pure percentage of the population would suggest.  IT IS A COMPLIMENT and it is not racist to notice.  Chat GPT is full of BS and quoting it as a source indicates who is training Chat GPT and not some undeniable fact.

RV's silliness is not noticing the Jewish people are successful.  It is thinking that their success justifies treating them worse or the Palestinians better than the behavior of either merits.  

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[red viking]

  On 2/12/2025 at 2:10 AM, Lipdrag said:

Guys, quit being idiots (I know this is a tall order - which I say as a contributing idiot to this forum).

It is asinine to call it racist to notice that world class sprinters and NBA players overwhelmingly have similar melanin levels.  It is also asinine to call it racist to observe that Jews are very much more successful and have more influence in every society in which they reside than their pure percentage of the population would suggest.  IT IS A COMPLIMENT and it is not racist to notice.

RV's silliness is not noticing the Jewish people are successful.  It is thinking that their success justifies treating them worse or the Palestinians better than the behavior of either merits.  

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They've abused, robbed, murdered (orders of magnitude more than vice versa) and basically imprisoned the Palestinians. Not to mention taking their land and continuing to take more every day. 

But yah, that doesn't bother me,  or the fact that my tax dollars support their atrocities.

Im actually mad that they're "successful" Yah. That's it. Brilliant. 

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[red viking]

  On 2/11/2025 at 8:21 PM, mspart said:

The first sign that someone is racist is when they say they are not racist.   How many times have we heard that?  NOw that the shoe is on the other foot, it doesn't feel so good.

mspart

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That's ɓrilliant. I must be racist because I don't think I'm a racist. You're like Sherlock Holmes.