How in the world did the government spending get so far off the tracks? In less than a month Elon will and his 20 year olds will pry 1 trillion dollars out of the politicians cold dead hands. will

[wrestlingguy]

5 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

In summary, the primary drivers of Musk's net worth increase are the significant rise in Tesla's stock value, the substantial valuation of SpaceX, and his strategic political engagements that have aligned with favorable policy developments that suit his companies.

Last I checked halting EV charging doesn't benefit Tesla. Tesla still has shareholders to report to, they can't tank because you don't like Elon Musk.

[jross]

Leadership that also took benefited from 20 years of government subsidies from Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.

[Offthemat]

1 minute ago, pokemonster said:

Strategic involvement with politics is what's driving it. He's enriching himself. 

How so?  He’s not getting paid for DOGE. 

[pokemonster]

9 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

Last I checked halting EV charging doesn't benefit Tesla. Tesla still has shareholders to report to, they can't tank because you don't like Elon Musk.

“I guess that there would be some impact, but I think it would be devastating for our competitors and for Tesla slightly,” Tesla CEO Elon Musk told analysts Tuesday during an earnings call.

“But long term, [it] probably actually helps Tesla,” he added

[jross]

3 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Strategic involvement with politics is what's driving it. He's enriching himself. 

Can you believe he is getting rich from these lunatic services.

• Tesla
  • Safer roads through self-driving cars and sustainable energy. Includes SolarCity, which encourages energy independence for homeowners and businesses through solar energy adoption.
• SpaceX
  • Cheaper reusable rocket technology to enable human settlement in outer space, and satellite deployment. Includes Starlink, which provides fast internet to rural and underserved parts of the world.
• Neuralink
  • Develops brain-computer interfaces to treat neurological conditions.
• The Boring Company
  • Solves urban congestion with underground tunnels, reducing travel time and pollution.
• X (Twitter)
  • Fosters free speech critical for social and political engagement.
• xAI
  • Focuses on building ethical AI to accelerate human scientific discovery 
• PayPal
  • Revolutionized digital payments.

[pokemonster]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

How so?  He’s not getting paid for DOGE. 

The value isn't in a measly paycheck from his DOGE team, cmon man, you have to be more intelligent than that. It's the same reason why every company in the world is willing to do anything to get your data. That is what is going to make you money. Influencing policy, knowing everything about the market, your customers, etc. is worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, maybe even trillions. And you're assuming because he isn't getting paid for DOGE that he's not getting value out of it. Open up your eyeballs.

[jross]

This guy... lunatic.  

What a horrible person.

• "The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence. There is currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right wing and far left wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society."

Did you see how he prioritized short term profit over the mission.  What an idiot

• "If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go ***duck** yourself. Go. ***duck**. Yourself. Is that clear?"

/s

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[mspart]

2 hours ago, pokemonster said:

Elon's net worth has skyrocketed by $200 BILLION dollars since Trump was elected and he's been allowed to do whatever the hell he wants. But yeah, what financial gain? 

When a reporter asked who is reviewing Musk's actions and determining there are no conflicts of interest in what he's delving into, they simply replied that there were no checks, he is policing himself. Having somebody police their own conflicts of interest is, in fact, a conflict of interest in itself. It's honestly laughable. 

How did he get 200 Billion since the election?   You say it but you don't say how?

mspart

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, Le duke said:

For starters, he had the FAA administrator who was going to fine him/his company fired.


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Sounds so similar to that barista.   I mean “burisma” bribe big guy scheme.   Weird.  You were totally offended by that one right?

 

#whataboutism yep.  

[pokemonster]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

How did he get 200 Billion since the election?   You say it but you don't say how?

mspart

Already said it, feel free to scroll up.

[jross]

Because of the recent witch hunt to hurt Musk,

I don't care.

[pokemonster]

12 minutes ago, jross said:

This guy... lunatic.  

What a horrible person.

• "The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence. There is currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right wing and far left wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society."

Did you see how he prioritized short term profit over the mission.  What an idiot

• "If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go ***duck** yourself. Go. ***duck**. Yourself. Is that clear?"

/s

You're right, this guy is doing things for the good of civilization. He can be trusted.

Care to share your thoughts on this trustworthy, noble man parading around on podcasts explicitly stating that he is one of the world's highest ranked gamers in multiple games and that the work that was done was him? Only to be proven to be a complete liar. Not only is this a laughably pathetic attempt at looking like a genius, it's something only an insecure narcissist would do. Let's here your thoughts on it. You sure you can trust this man without ANY checks and balances?

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[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

It's the same reason why every company in the world is willing to do anything to get your data.

Ironically.  I think this is one big reason the gov wants to get rid of the TikTok.   Gov can compel  Facebook or YouTube or other us companies to keep/share with the gov and the Chinese won’t.  Not to get too far off topic.  

[Le duke]

Sounds so similar to that barista.   I mean “burisma” bribe big guy scheme.   Weird.  You were totally offended by that one right?
 
#whataboutism yep.  

Shokin? The guy who wasn’t investigating Hunter Biden?

Shokin investigated Burisma before Hunter Biden ever joined their board. Hunter joined 2 years after he concluded his investigation.

Here’s a good article with some relevant dates that I’m sure you won’t read.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/


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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, pokemonster said:

You're right, this guy is doing things for the good of civilization. He can be trusted.

Care to share your thoughts on this trustworthy, noble man parading around on podcasts explicitly stating that he is one of the world's highest ranked gamers in multiple games and that the work that was done was him? Only to be proven to be a complete liar. Not only is this a laughably pathetic attempt at looking like a genius, it's something only an insecure narcissist would do. Let's here your thoughts on it. 

Wait he said he was indian?   Or a good law school student?   Or all of a sudden had a black accent when campaigning to that community?   So weird.   

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

 

Shokin? The guy who wasn’t investigating Hunter Biden?

Shokin investigated Burisma before Hunter Biden ever joined their board. Hunter joined 2 years after he concluded his investigation.

Here’s a good article with some relevant dates that I’m sure you won’t read.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/


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You were offended by them removing the prosecutor right?   And the hush $$$?   I don’t seem to remember you taking that stance.  

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Wait he said he was indian?   Or a good law school student?   Or all of a sudden had a black accent when campaigning to that community?   So weird.   

Answer the question - is he trustworthy? Is this a normal thing to do? Rather than deflecting to whatever gibberish you're speaking of. 

Idk who you're even referring to as being Indian, or a law school student, or whatever. If it were Kamala, or Biden, or some other idiot in their own right, it has nothing to do with what I asked. 

[Le duke]

You were offended by them removing the prosecutor right?   And the hush $$$?   I don’t seem to remember you taking that stance.  

The EU, IMF and US recommended Shokin be removed because he hadn’t successfully prosecuted anyone.

Which is something you DOGE girls should appreciate. More effective government. Less corruption.


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[mspart]

15 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

The value isn't in a measly paycheck from his DOGE team, cmon man, you have to be more intelligent than that. It's the same reason why every company in the world is willing to do anything to get your data. That is what is going to make you money. Influencing policy, knowing everything about the market, your customers, etc. is worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, maybe even trillions. And you're assuming because he isn't getting paid for DOGE that he's not getting value out of it. Open up your eyeballs.

So you are saying that his worth is up 200 billion because of a couple of weeks of USAID?  Comeon now, You said since the election.   When did this 200Billion magically show up?

https://www.investopedia.com/elon-musk-net-worth-tesla-spacex-ai-300-billion-8740315

Tesla CEO Elon Musk is the richest person in the world as of December 2024 and became the first person to have a net worth of over $400 billion, according to Bloomberg.1 The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimates his net worth at around $442 billion as of this writing.2

Musk's net worth is largely driven by his stakes in Tesla and privately held rocket and satellite manufacturing company, SpaceX. Tesla's shares have increased nearly 70% in 2024, and have jumped since the election. Meanwhile, an insider share sale of SpaceX in December 2024 boosted Musk's net worth by about $50 billion, according to Bloomberg.1

Musk's net worth has increased by 77% since Trump's reelection as president in November, per Bloomberg.1 Musk has been vocal in his support for Trump, Forbes reported, joining him on the campaign trail and becoming Trump's second largest donor by putting $118 million into America PAC, which Musk created.3 Musk was appointed as co-lead of President-elect Trump's new Department of Government Efficiency, alongside former Republican presidential candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy.

So he was worth 226 Billion before the election and at the end of Dec was worth 400 Billion?  And this because the stock in his companies has gone up that much?  He hasn't had time to do anything of real importance yet with DOGE.  I fail to understand with Trumps stand on renewable energy and scrapping money for e cars, how this would help Tesla which grew 70% in value in 2024, not just since the election.  

mspart

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Answer the question - is he trustworthy? Is this a normal thing to do? Rather than deflecting to whatever gibberish you're speaking of. 

Idk who you're even referring to as being Indian, or a law school student, or whatever. If it were Kamala, or Biden, or some other idiot in their own right, it has nothing to do with what I asked. 

The Indian is Pocahontas.   I mean Elizabeth Warren.    The bad law student is air Biden.   The accent faker was Kamala.   I don’t want to look up random other dem liars.   So I stopped there.    
 

yes.  I’ll answer.  Musk is trustworthy.  He is doing what Trump campaigned on.  Shutting down shytty spending of my tax dollars.  He will keep doing more of this.   And y’all’s head will continue to explode.

the American people as a whole want and love this.   

[pokemonster]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

So you are saying that his worth is up 200 billion because of a couple of weeks of USAID?  Comeon now, You said since the election.   When did this 200Billion magically show up?

https://www.investopedia.com/elon-musk-net-worth-tesla-spacex-ai-300-billion-8740315

Tesla CEO Elon Musk is the richest person in the world as of December 2024 and became the first person to have a net worth of over $400 billion, according to Bloomberg.1 The Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimates his net worth at around $442 billion as of this writing.2

Musk's net worth is largely driven by his stakes in Tesla and privately held rocket and satellite manufacturing company, SpaceX. Tesla's shares have increased nearly 70% in 2024, and have jumped since the election. Meanwhile, an insider share sale of SpaceX in December 2024 boosted Musk's net worth by about $50 billion, according to Bloomberg.1

Musk's net worth has increased by 77% since Trump's reelection as president in November, per Bloomberg.1 Musk has been vocal in his support for Trump, Forbes reported, joining him on the campaign trail and becoming Trump's second largest donor by putting $118 million into America PAC, which Musk created.3 Musk was appointed as co-lead of President-elect Trump's new Department of Government Efficiency, alongside former Republican presidential candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy.

So he was worth 226 Billion before the election and at the end of Dec was worth 400 Billion?  And this because the stock in his companies has gone up that much?  He hasn't had time to do anything of real importance yet with DOGE.  I fail to understand with Trumps stand on renewable energy and scrapping money for e cars, how this would help Tesla which grew 70% in value in 2024, not just since the election.  

mspart

Elon's net worth is skyrocketing due to his political alignment and unprecedented influence over the president. That's the entire point. Stocks rise based on perception of where they are heading, and because Elon has the keys to the government, it's exponentially climbing. 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, Le duke said:

The EU, IMF and US recommended Shokin be removed because he hadn’t successfully prosecuted anyone.

Which is something you DOGE girls should appreciate. More effective government. Less corruption.


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I digress.   My party corruption is cool.  Your party it’s outrageous.  Bla bla.     I hope the big guy paid his taxes on his bribes.   You know.  The wealthy should pay their fair share.  

[mspart]

11 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Shokin? The guy who wasn’t investigating Hunter Biden?

Shokin investigated Burisma before Hunter Biden ever joined their board. Hunter joined 2 years after he concluded his investigation.

Here’s a good article with some relevant dates that I’m sure you won’t read.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/


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Shokin fired March 2016.   Hunter joined Burisma board 2014.   Your dates are off just a little.  You and Joe don't know anything about Hunter's international dealings.  Nice try.

mspart

[pokemonster]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The Indian is Pocahontas.   I mean Elizabeth Warren.    The bad law student is air Biden.   The accent faker was Kamala.   I don’t want to look up random other dem liars.   So I stopped there.    
 

yes.  I’ll answer.  Musk is trustworthy.  He is doing what Trump campaigned on.  Shutting down shytty spending of my tax dollars.  He will keep doing more of this.   And y’all’s head will continue to explode.

the American people as a whole want and love this.   

Oh so a bunch of false equivalence arguments rather than commenting on the actual situation. Got it. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, pokemonster said:

Elon's net worth is skyrocketing due to his political alignment and unprecedented influence over the president. That's the entire point. Stocks rise based on perception of where they are heading, and because Elon has the keys to the government, it's exponentially climbing. 

I invest in that eft.  What’s it called?   NANC.  I did quite well thank you.