Paul158 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 7:09 PM, strange_daze said: The comment about 'brand' is clearly a reference to the Brands bros (see Poster below for iconic reference). Another indicator: BB also mentioned that the program produces 'good' wrestlers. It's clearly a reference to Iowa, who is adept at producing good wrestlers, as opposed to PSU, who produces 'phenomenal' or 'generational' wrestlers. The answer is right there--you just have to read between the lines. Expand Thats a stretch but ok. Maybe they actually use a branding iron.
Pinnacle Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 6:05 PM, Truzzcat said: hit list last two years: Jax: Lilledahl,Knox,Tomasello,Blaze,Stanich,Deshazer,Strickenberger,Seidel,Mendoza,Volk,Both Raneys,Cronin,(5-4 loss to gillman) Duke hit list: Lockett,Lewan,Thomas,Andonian,Jacques,Bouzakis Blaze hit list: Forrest,Lilledahl,Megaludis,Fix,Gross,Garrett,Ramos,Davino,Bailey,Deluca Bassett: Valencia,Ashnault,Zepeda Not detracting from Bo he never loses I think all the other 3 guys have domestic losses in the last two or so years (dukes last one was the ironman finals to kasak I think) I do not think the upper level wins are comparable at all though especially with Blaze and Jax. Expand All impressive. Duke also won the Junior Schalles Award. 2
BAC Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) My money's on Iowa. Okie State is the sexy choice with DT pulling in an army of top recruits, but I don't see the relationships that would make them stand out to Bo. PSU is both the safe choice and likely the best choice to reach his full potential, but I'm not sure that aligns with Bo's brand-building goals, as he wouldn't really stand apart from other PSU studs. V-Tech is the underdog choice, but lacks the wrestling-frenzy atmosphere or fan base. But Iowa checks all the boxes. What they lack in talent development, they make up for in having a devoted fan base who'd treat him like a celebrity, and which is anxiously looking for their next Spencer, not just a one-year wonder via the portal. It's also a program that for years has lacked an ambassador for its "Iowa Style" brand, and would no doubt be willing to rebuild it around Bo's "machine guy" branding. The brands have some similarity too, both emphasizing pace/stamina/hard work over style/technique/talent, and Bo can embody the virtues of that prioritization. Bottom line is he can be a star in Iowa City in a way he wouldn't be at any other school. The coaches shoveling his steps at 5am probably also showed they're willing to cater (if not subjugate themselves) to him in a way that some of the other coaching staffs won't, at least not to that degree. Truth is, Iowa needs Bo far more than any of these other "final four" programs need him, and I suspect that's come out in the recruiting process. Wherever he lands, I'll root for him. He seems like a good kid. Part of me wishes he'd go to PSU as I think his ceiling is highest there, but I do see why Iowa is a sensible choice for what he says is important to him, and parity is a good thing too. Edited February 3 by BAC 1
BruceyB Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 5:23 PM, Elevator said: I know there may be synergy with his brother, but straight up is he a bigger recruit than Duke? Blaze? Forrest? Expand I think he is a bigger recruit because he is an outspoken leader and would be a true face of a program. Angelo Ferrari has been quiet, Blaze is quiet, Forrest isn't outspoken, etc. etc. If Bo goes to either Iowa or OK State, he will be their brand ambassador and have chosen to take on Penn State rather than join them, and the program he goes to will reap many rewards beyond his points at NCAAs. For PSU however, he wouldn't have the same impact because they are already sitting on an embarrassment of riches. 1
crzyctldy Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I feel like timing plays into discerning who he is committing to tomorrow. I thought I previously read that he was waiting until after NCAAs to decide. Fast forward to Iowa taking the PSU beatdown and losing out on the Ross lottery in the last week. I can see the Iowa donor saying enough is enough, what is it going to take to speed up the timeline and give our program the win. Go to Bo with this unbeatable offer, have him decide now, and let's get the bad taste of the recent results out of our mouths, and get us a win now. I don't feel as if OKST or Penn State would make the push to expedite the decision. That's where I'm leaning with this fun little show. 2
BarSeries Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 10:15 PM, crzyctldy said: I feel like timing plays into discerning who he is committing to tomorrow. I thought I previously read that he was waiting until after NCAAs to decide. Fast forward to Iowa taking the PSU beatdown and losing out on the Ross lottery in the last week. I can see the Iowa donor saying enough is enough, what is it going to take to speed up the timeline and give our program the win. Go to Bo with this unbeatable offer, have him decide now, and let's get the bad taste of the recent results out of our mouths, and get us a win now. I don't feel as if OKST or Penn State would make the push to expedite the decision. That's where I'm leaning with this fun little show. Expand This is a good take.
maligned Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 10:15 PM, crzyctldy said: I feel like timing plays into discerning who he is committing to tomorrow. I thought I previously read that he was waiting until after NCAAs to decide. Fast forward to Iowa taking the PSU beatdown and losing out on the Ross lottery in the last week. I can see the Iowa donor saying enough is enough, what is it going to take to speed up the timeline and give our program the win. Go to Bo with this unbeatable offer, have him decide now, and let's get the bad taste of the recent results out of our mouths, and get us a win now. I don't feel as if OKST or Penn State would make the push to expedite the decision. That's where I'm leaning with this fun little show. Expand I agree with @BarSeries that this is a good take. All the football and roundball coaches are saying that recruiting is simple now--it's a financial negotiation that's usually extremely fast compared to traditional recruiting (if you're not an influencer like Bassett). This smells like a negotiation that just finished early and whose consummation wants to be used to leverage the next negotiations in line.
Dogbone Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 10:30 PM, maligned said: I agree with @BarSeries that this is a good take. All the football and roundball coaches are saying that recruiting is simple now--it's a financial negotiation that's usually extremely fast compared to traditional recruiting (if you're not an influencer like Bassett). This smells like a negotiation that just finished early and whose consummation wants to be used to leverage the next negotiations in line. Expand I have no idea if this is true either, but it would also track with the accelerated timeline. Instead of just cutting the list this week, he went down to 4 teams today and will announce tomorrow. If he wanted to drag it out longer, he certainly could.
bnwtwg Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 10:15 PM, crzyctldy said: I feel like timing plays into discerning who he is committing to tomorrow. I thought I previously read that he was waiting until after NCAAs to decide. Fast forward to Iowa taking the PSU beatdown and losing out on the Ross lottery in the last week. I can see the Iowa donor saying enough is enough, what is it going to take to speed up the timeline and give our program the win. Go to Bo with this unbeatable offer, have him decide now, and let's get the bad taste of the recent results out of our mouths, and get us a win now. I don't feel as if OKST or Penn State would make the push to expedite the decision. That's where I'm leaning with this fun little show. Expand It's obviously OkSt because they have a very strong recent track record of taking advantage of a historic loss by opening the wallet to do what needs to be done. Bo is trading in his machine gun for six shooters i am an idiot on the internet
Mr. PeanutButter Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I feel like this is an overly cynical take even per the wrestling community's standards. What will people be saying if he commits to PSU or VaTech? That not even Bob Nichol's nickles or David Taylor's gnome ears could sway him?
BruceyB Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 11:32 PM, Mr. PeanutButter said: What will people be saying if he commits to PSU or VaTech? Expand He would be an absolute legend if he went to VT. If he goes to PSU then this will be the most anticlimactic build up since LeBron's "The Decision." 2
Fletcher Posted February 3 Posted February 3 The kid's clearly a narcissist. At PSU he'll have to battle for a starting spot and there's real risk he won't be in the lineup his first or second year. And why knows who PSU brings in over the next 4 yrs. at his weight. What does that do "the brand"? He won't be a Nittany Lion. 2
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 11:40 PM, BruceyB said: He would be an absolute legend if he went to VT. Expand I dunno if he was lying but if VT gave him a similar NIL offer than those other 3, that’s pretty impressive 1
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 10:15 PM, crzyctldy said: I feel like timing plays into discerning who he is committing to tomorrow. I thought I previously read that he was waiting until after NCAAs to decide. Fast forward to Iowa taking the PSU beatdown and losing out on the Ross lottery in the last week. I can see the Iowa donor saying enough is enough, what is it going to take to speed up the timeline and give our program the win. Go to Bo with this unbeatable offer, have him decide now, and let's get the bad taste of the recent results out of our mouths, and get us a win now. I don't feel as if OKST or Penn State would make the push to expedite the decision. That's where I'm leaning with this fun little show. Expand This may be true but I mentioned earlier that I heard PSU (can’t remember where, Spencer Lee maybe?) has put expiration dates on their offers, if so it could be them or if it was successful maybe Taylor is using the same strategy
boconnell Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 11:47 PM, Fletcher said: The kid's clearly a narcissist. At PSU he'll have to battle for a starting spot and there's real risk he won't be in the lineup his first or second year. And why knows who PSU brings in over the next 4 yrs. at his weight. What does that do "the brand"? He won't be a Nittany Lion. Expand What an absurd thing to say about a kid who is good at social media. 1
bnwtwg Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 11:32 PM, Mr. PeanutButter said: What will people be saying if he commits to VaTech? Expand That he will switch his commitment to someone that actually meets his bidding price around this time next year 1 i am an idiot on the internet
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 5:05 PM, Fletcher said: Anytime you hear a wrestling NIL rumor, take a zero off the end. In this case, maybe take off a zero and divide by 4. Expand $5 million per year is definitely exaggerated, but I wouldn’t be super shocked if that’s the total number. I mean even Willie confirmed that Teemer and Buchanan were getting $500k each for one season. So I’d bet Bo got offered more than that. $3 million+ for a career is certainly believable to me. 1
Fletcher Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 11:24 AM, 1032004 said: $5 million per year is definitely exaggerated, but I wouldn’t be super shocked if that’s the total number. I mean even Willie confirmed that Teemer and Buchanan were getting $500k each for one season. So I’d bet Bo got offered more than that. $3 million+ for a career is certainly believable to me. Expand But why offer one kid $3MM when you can get six Buchanan's for that same price? 2
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 11:46 AM, Fletcher said: But why offer one kid $3MM when you can get six Buchanan's for that same price? Expand It’s not six, on an annual basis it’s probably somewhere between 1.5 ($750k/year) - 2.5 ($1.25mm/year). Still a fair question, but I’m not sure you can expect to get more than 1 or 2 national title contenders in the portal each year. Maybe I’m an optimist but I do think we’re going to see less transferring after all the guys with the free Covid years are gone. And many of the guys that finish 1-3 will probably already be at schools offering pretty good NIL. And of course from a fan perspective there’s something to be said for being able to root for the same guy for 4 years vs new guys every year. And with Bassett, while maybe not worth $500k+, he does bring his marketability with him that could also actually bring in some revenue. Not to mention landing him makes you the frontrunner for Melvin Miller as well.
Gene Mills Fan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 7:22 PM, Paul158 said: Thats a stretch but ok. Maybe they actually use a branding iron. Expand His exact words: where I can develop my Brands!
JimmyCinnabon Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I am just glad this saga will be over today. For now.
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I’m still curious what made him change his mind about when he was going to commit, IIRC his exact words like less than a month ago were “it will definitely be after NCAA’s, probably over the summer.” Is there any chance he reclassifies and enters college next year? I’d imagine if someone is offering $3+ million they will want a sooner return on their investment.
1032004 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 2:14 PM, creek chub said: What times does he make his announcement today? Expand After their dual in the evening 1
okokzach Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 2:14 PM, creek chub said: What times does he make his announcement today? Expand after his dual tonight, which starts at 7:00 eastern, so maybe 8:30 eastern or 1
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