Annual ranking of 4xers

[Pinnacle]

On 7/20/2026 at 9:01 PM, MichiganMade3 said:

5-3 is dominate?,,

Sure. A 4 minute ride with a half dozen re starts over a 25 year old Olympic Bronze medalist is a dominating performance, especially when said opponent gets his only points with a meaningless TD with 7 seconds left in the match. 

[Hammerlock3]

On 2/1/2025 at 5:06 AM, BruceyB said:

Let the completely subjective arguments commence. Where would you rank the 4xers? I am excluding Pat Smith due to the fact that we don't have bonus stats/enough video to provide evidence to really show his greatness.

Mine would be..

1. Cael - undefeated and absurd dominance

2. Dake - No redshirts, plus Molinaro, St. John, 2x Hodge winner David Taylor all won NCAAs after Dake moved from their weight/graduated.

3. Stieber - Dominance increased year over year sans a "flu loss" to Retherford. Ramos won a title after he moved up, and went on to win a world silver.

4. Yanni D - Only one on the list to win a world medal while still having college eligibility, plus won as a true freshman when he had a 2x champ and returning finalist in his weight.

5. Starocci - Beat NCAA champs Griffith and Lewis multiple times (including on a bum wheel). Should have had a dominant bonus record last year if not for the injury, and has a win over Keckeisen in the All-Star Classic (who has dominated 184).

6. Aaron Brooks - first NCAA appearance followed spending his senior year, and freshman year (he was ranked #6 going into nationals, may have won, but who knows), in the PSU room before ever wrestling at NCAAs. Also only has 1 year where he had a bonus percentage over 70% (when points were boosted unlike for any other 4xers other than last year for Starocci).

 

this is the correct order. IMHO

I could argue for Yianni over Stieber. Because of Lee sucking the air out of this particular room no one talks about the fact that Yianni won as a true freshmen with a two time returning champ in his weight with a torn ACL...that's insane and it never gets mentioned. 

I favor stieber just caue he' a better example of a folkstyle wrestler...kinda like how Roger Federer i my favorite tennis player just cause he's the best example of what a tennis player is to me. 

[Hammerlock3]

On 7/20/2026 at 9:01 PM, MichiganMade3 said:

5-3 is dominate?,,

you can dominate a match with a closer score than that. 

[ionel]

10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

you can dominate a match with a closer score than that. 

When you say "you" shirley you don't mean @MichiganMade3.  

[nhs67]

17 hours ago, Simpleman424 said:

If only they could have stolen signs from the other side of the mat…

Ooooh.  What you mean?

[Jim L]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

this is the correct order. IMHO

I could argue for Yianni over Stieber. Because of Lee sucking the air out of this particular room no one talks about the fact that Yianni won as a true freshmen with a two time returning champ in his weight with a torn ACL...that's insane and it never gets mentioned. 

I favor stieber just caue he' a better example of a folkstyle wrestler...kinda like how Roger Federer i my favorite tennis player just cause he's the best example of what a tennis player is to me. 

What year did Yianni lose to freshman Crookham (2x I think)? 

[Simpleman424]

39 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Ooooh.  What you mean?

They’re gross…

[Gene Mills Fan]

32 minutes ago, Jim L said:

What year did Yianni lose to freshman Crookham (2x I think)? 

Yianni? Arujao????  wrong big red

[mspart]

Just to be a national champion is a major accomplishment.   To do it multiple times is just insane.  

mspart

[Jim L]

2 hours ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

Yianni? Arujao????  wrong big red

Yep... My bad

[Griff the BullRam]

Yianni did lose to Gomez his senior year. Still, only 2 losses in his college career, both to NCAA finalists known for being funky, wild, unconventional, etc

[Hammerlock3]

6 hours ago, Jim L said:

Yep... My bad

You were looking for gomez