Is Ohio St going full jv tonight?

[ionel]

 ... first two so far unranked backups.

[flyingcement]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

 ... first two so far unranked backups.

I don't have regular cable and was sad to miss out.  I guess I'm not missing much?  did it start at 125?

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I don't have regular cable and was sad to miss out.  I guess I'm not missing much?  did it start at 125?

Not on cable on Espn+ / ACC.  Started at 174. 

 

I've gotta go soon will have to watch replay of it and Bedlam 9pmish.  

Edited Saturday at 12:34 AM by ionel

[flyingcement]

Just now, ionel said:

Not on cable on Espn+ / ACC.  Started at 174. 

I have ESPN+ but it asks me for my basic cable login to watch it.  thanks for the update 

[ionel]

Pitt wins 174 & 184. 

[RandolphTJones]

Ryan starting the dual off with 2 egregious challenges. Shumate should have had a reversal at the end. 

[Kov88]

This is rough to watch

[flyingcement]

So no Feldman either it seems.  Unles they are all injured, I'm trying to understand the rationale here

[BruceyB]

27 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

So no Feldman either it seems.  Unles they are all injured, I'm trying to understand the rationale here

Feldman is supposed to be out for a few weeks with a rib injury from the Hendrickson match. Not sure about the others.

[wrestlingfan22]

Birden is their best 174 with Kharcala still out and Welsh in RS. 

At 184 Shumate is good and just took 4th at CKLV

Rogotzke going 197 because Geog is hurt. He also has only wrestled once this season so he has likely been injured or struggling with weight. '

Their lineup for the rest of the year could very well see Shumate 184 and Rogotzke 197

[Paul158]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

 ... first two so far unranked backups.

The backups actually wrestled really well. Yes the Buckeyes are a little dinged up. I hope coach Ryan gets the injured wrestlers the proper rehab and time off if needed. This is a good time to get healed up during Christmas break. It is a long season.

[Paul158]

2 hours ago, RandolphTJones said:

Ryan starting the dual off with 2 egregious challenges. Shumate should have had a reversal at the end. 

Agreed.

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

The ILLINI's next dual is against the Buckeyes. I could see the good guys winning 7 and possibly 8 against the lineup they sent out tonight. Ohio State has four more duals in December before they face ILLINOIS. I'm thinking Tom Ryan has to get Rocco Welsh to stop eating so much food so that he can make 184 by January 10 and burn one of his "attached" days. 

 

174: No. 17 Luca Augustine (Pitt) dec. e'Than Birden (Ohio State), 2-1 TB-1 (Pitt leads 3-0)
184: No. 11 Reece Heller (Pitt) dec. Seth Shumate (Ohio State), 6-5 (Pitt leads 6-0)
197: No. 16 Mac Stout (Pitt) dec. No. 15 Ryder Rogotzke (Ohio State), 8-2 (Pitt leads 9-0)
285: No. 14 Dayton Pitzer (Pitt) tech. fall Hogan Swenski (Ohio State), 16-1 (7:00) (Pitt leads 14-0)
125: No. 6 Brendan McCrone (Ohio State) major dec. Matt Marlow (Pitt), 8-0 (Pitt leads 14-4)
133: No. 7 Nic Bouzakis (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Vinnie Santaniello (Pitt), 14-4 (Pitt leads 14-8)
141: No. 2 Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) tech. fall No. 21 Anthony Santaniello (Pitt), 16-1 (5:00) (Pitt leads 14-13)
149: No. 12 Dylan D'Emilio (Ohio State) dec. No. 28 Finn Solomon (Pitt), 7-4 (Ohio State leads 16-14)
157: No. 7 Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Dylan Evans (Pitt), 13-4 (Ohio State leads 20-14)
165: Jared Keslar (Pitt) dec. No. 8 Sammy Sasso (Ohio State), 13-11 (Ohio State wins 20-17)

[MPhillips]

3 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

I could see the good guys winning 7 and possibly 8 against the lineup they sent out tonight.

Jan. 10th @ Huff Hall.  

Just remember, "Duals don't matter."

 

 

[ionel]

5 hours ago, MPhillips said:

Jan. 10th @ Huff Hall.  

Just remember, "Duals don't matter."

 

 

... wait ... what?  

[pokemonster]

Some YouTube account posted the dual thankfully and mannnn the ref was a bit of a homer. Shumate had a great reversal to the guy's back at the end and McCrone had his guy pinned clear as day and he didn't call it. 

[BruceyB]

15 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

The ILLINI's next dual is against the Buckeyes. I could see the good guys winning 7 and possibly 8 against the lineup they sent out tonight. Ohio State has four more duals in December before they face ILLINOIS. I'm thinking Tom Ryan has to get Rocco Welsh to stop eating so much food so that he can make 184 by January 10 and burn one of his "attached" days. 

 

174: No. 17 Luca Augustine (Pitt) dec. e'Than Birden (Ohio State), 2-1 TB-1 (Pitt leads 3-0)
184: No. 11 Reece Heller (Pitt) dec. Seth Shumate (Ohio State), 6-5 (Pitt leads 6-0)
197: No. 16 Mac Stout (Pitt) dec. No. 15 Ryder Rogotzke (Ohio State), 8-2 (Pitt leads 9-0)
285: No. 14 Dayton Pitzer (Pitt) tech. fall Hogan Swenski (Ohio State), 16-1 (7:00) (Pitt leads 14-0)
125: No. 6 Brendan McCrone (Ohio State) major dec. Matt Marlow (Pitt), 8-0 (Pitt leads 14-4)
133: No. 7 Nic Bouzakis (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Vinnie Santaniello (Pitt), 14-4 (Pitt leads 14-8)
141: No. 2 Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) tech. fall No. 21 Anthony Santaniello (Pitt), 16-1 (5:00) (Pitt leads 14-13)
149: No. 12 Dylan D'Emilio (Ohio State) dec. No. 28 Finn Solomon (Pitt), 7-4 (Ohio State leads 16-14)
157: No. 7 Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Dylan Evans (Pitt), 13-4 (Ohio State leads 20-14)
165: Jared Keslar (Pitt) dec. No. 8 Sammy Sasso (Ohio State), 13-11 (Ohio State wins 20-17)

The 5 attached events only applies to true freshman. So Welsh unless they pull his redshirt will not be competing in the OSU singlet this year.

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

The 5 attached events only applies to true freshman. So Welsh unless they pull his redshirt will not be competing in the OSU singlet this year.

I posted about Welsh on @MPhillips' Ohio State forum about this issue based on an article by the NCAA that seemed to outright state that any redshirt athlete could use those 5 free dates:

For older athletes, competing for a few matches during a redshirt season can also allow them to gauge an injury, assess their health or just wear off some rust.

But I looked up the actual rule (12.8.3.1.7 Exception), and I believe you are right. Still, I think the NCAA would grant Rocco Welsh and Ohio State a hardship waiver to wrestle against the ILLINI because otherwise it'll be a slaughter. 

 

[ionel]

11 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

I posted about Welsh on @MPhillips' Ohio State forum about this issue based on an article by the NCAA that seemed to outright state that any redshirt athlete could use those 5 free dates:

For older athletes, competing for a few matches during a redshirt season can also allow them to gauge an injury, assess their health or just wear off some rust.

But I looked up the actual rule (12.8.3.1.7 Exception), and I believe you are right. Still, I think the NCAA would grant Rocco Welsh and Ohio State a hardship waiver to wrestle against the ILLINI because otherwise it'll be a slaughter. 

 

Yes rule: 13.9b.8.3.15 Slaughter Exception probably applies to the Jan 10th event. 

[BruceyB]

45 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

I posted about Welsh on @MPhillips' Ohio State forum about this issue based on an article by the NCAA that seemed to outright state that any redshirt athlete could use those 5 free dates:

For older athletes, competing for a few matches during a redshirt season can also allow them to gauge an injury, assess their health or just wear off some rust.

But I looked up the actual rule (12.8.3.1.7 Exception), and I believe you are right. Still, I think the NCAA would grant Rocco Welsh and Ohio State a hardship waiver to wrestle against the ILLINI because otherwise it'll be a slaughter. 

 

That is interesting. I haven't heard of anyone utilizing that since the 5 free date rule went into effect. The wording seems pretty ambiguous. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

47 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

That is interesting. I haven't heard of anyone utilizing that since the 5 free date rule went into effect. The wording seems pretty ambiguous. 

The author just got it wrong. The rule is unambiguois. The five free dates only applies to the first year of enrollment (true freshman year).

Edited Saturday at 11:56 PM by Wrestleknownothing

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

3 hours ago, BruceyB said:

That is interesting. I haven't heard of anyone utilizing that since the 5 free date rule went into effect. The wording seems pretty ambiguous. 

 

Looking back at it, I think the writer meant that that would be a nice rule change. An aspirational goal. 

I was fooled, and I'm glad you spoke up so that I was incentivized to check the actual rule. Cheers!