Sports most affected by roster limits

[Wrestleknownothing]

Everyone should read Swim Swam

https://swimswam.com/which-sports-are-being-hit-hardest-by-new-ncaa-roster-limits/

 

 

• Men's wrestling is third largest loser, and fourth largest percentage loser, of roster spots.
• But, I do not think the powers that be care as women's wrestling is the second largest absolute gainer, and the largest percentage gainer by a very wide margin.
• While football loses the most in absolute terms they gain the most in scholarship terms (at least in scholarships that will actually be funded).

[flyingcement]

In terms of sports gaining - I guess it will remain to be seen - which ones were being artificially constrained by their previous cap - versus those which did not have enough interest to begin with.  Thanks for the analysis - this is great stuff

[Husker_Du]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Men's wrestling is third largest loser, and fourth largest percentage loser, of roster spots.

• But, I do not think the powers that be care as women's wrestling is the second largest absolute gainer, and the largest percentage gainer by a very wide margin.

because it's a cap and not a floor, women's wrestling doesn't necessarily gain.

what was stopping those programs perviously from having 30? nothing.

don't get me wrong, i'm glad there is that much room for growth. but we (wrestling as a whole) definitely didn't get any favors here. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

23 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

because it's a cap and not a floor, women's wrestling doesn't necessarily gain.

what was stopping those programs perviously from having 30? nothing.

don't get me wrong, i'm glad there is that much room for growth. but we (wrestling as a whole) definitely didn't get any favors here. 

Agree 100%. I am just anticipating what an admin's argument would be for why it's "fair".

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Everyone should read Swim Swam

 

This seems so non wrestling to me.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

17 minutes ago, ionel said:

This seems so non wrestling to me.  

While they appear to also have some non-wrestling content, they are the go to source for wrestling roster sizes circa 2022-23, so....

[bracketbuster]

Good find and sorry to the readers who don't like to hear about non-wrestling. The thing that stuck out to me at first glance was the top 7 losing sports were all male sports. The top 6 gainers were women's sports.

Male sports as a whole lost 23.2 roster spots across all sports. Women's sports "gained" 87.7 roster spots. 

Men have 556 spots across 19 sports (29.26 average)

Women have 758 spots across 26 sports (29.15 average)

I had also never thought about this but for revenue share do multi-sport athletes get double or triple the revenue as individuals? Thinking about cross country, indoor track, and outdoor track. If that were to be the case, they are basically identical indoor & outdoor track rosters I would image at all DI schools and the cross country team would be about half of the track & field teams so would schools be paying out triple revenue share and only getting 1 tuition check minus scholarships for a sport that I can't imagine is producing much revenue?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Interesting.  I was just told by a coach/parent of a D1 prospect, tnat cross country was being limited to ten spots.  This seems to make more sense, and I am very surprised how wrong he was.

[Truzzcat]

I think the bigger factor at play is the ability to give full rides to everyone. I think that is going to kill programs that aren't earning revenue. They will no longer get any kickback from overarching umbrellas for scholarships so its going to have to be donor money or fundraisers.