Actions Have Consequences

[uncle bernard]

For a year, the Biden administration has refused to curb Israeli escalation in the region (let alone the massacre in Gaza). Israel claims it's "de-escalating through escalation," whatever 1984 nonsense that is. 

We should have stopped them when they did "targeted" air strikes in other sovereign countries. We didn't. We should have stopped them when they carried out terror attacks in Lebanon. We didn't. We should have stopped them when the bombed Beirut and killed hundreds of Lebanese civilians. We didn't.

Now the Iranians have said enough and swallowed the bait. Missiles are falling on Tel Aviv - real ones, not glorified fireworks. We will almost assuredly get dragged into a regional conflict to defend Israel, just like Netanyahu wanted. Congratulations to all the geniuses on here who wouldn't hear any criticism of Israel and our policy towards them. You're getting exactly what you asked for, whether you realize it or not.

[Scouts Honor]

hmm, so Iran's escalations are just forgotten? 

[Scouts Honor]

isreal... just lie back and feel the enrichment from daily missile attacks from north and south

[red viking]

When Israel tells us to bend over, U.S. taxpayers respond with "how far?' 

We'll literally do whatever they want and continue to provide blank checks. They OWN us. 

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

hmm, so Iran's escalations are just forgotten? 

Iran specifically chose not to retaliate in a way that would kill people when Israel struck its embassy. Iran is no angel, but your refusal to accept the obvious fact that Israel has been the escalating party in the last year is sheer stupidity.

After 10/7, Israel said it's objective was to rescue the hostages and re-secure its borders. That immediately shifted when Hamas offered to return ALL hostages in exchange for them not invading.

The remaining hostages could have been home months ago. Gaza has been levelled. Israel's borders were secured. Hamas accepted the ceasefire deal. But Israel continues to escalate because they see this as an opportunity to annex Gaza, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon. That's what this is about.

And if you actually listen to what they say publicly *in Hebrew*, you'd know all that. They are extremely open and honest about their intentions when not speaking to a Western audience.

[red viking]

They're Gods chosen people. They can do whatever they want. and we send them blank checks. We need to bless them. Bible says so. Bible also says they are entitled to that land so that means they are. 

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[uncle bernard]

Praying for the souls in Tel Aviv and wherever the Israeli response will be. 

[Offthemat]

Netanyahu said regime change is coming to Iran sooner than you think. 

[Scouts Honor]

you are missing the point. well before OCT 7th of last year, hezbollah/hamas repeated launched missiles, daily into isreal

this is IRAN at work.

then OCT 7th escalation and coordinated attack from hez.

now this

you discount iran

Edited October 1 by Scouts Honor

[Scouts Honor]

maybe the actions you should be focused on, is obama/ biden given Iran $6billion

[uncle bernard]

https://x.com/adamjohnsonCHI/status/1841167259391160660\

This is the EXACT definition of "human shields" you all used in Gaza. Will you apply it equally?

"Human shields" has become a meaningless term. They called the Lebanese civilians killed or injured in their pager terror attack or their bombings human shields too. Going to the grocery store or simply living in a residential neighborhood does not make you a legit military target, even if militants shop or live there too. It's always been absurd and you all know it. 

[red viking]

Israel's attack on Gaza was nothing remotely close 

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

you are missing the point. well be OCT 7th of last year, hezbollah/hamas repeated launched missiles, daily into isreal

this is IRAN at work.

then OCT 7th escalation and coordinated attack from hez.

now this

you discount iran

Israel's counterattack on Gaza was nothing even close to proportiional to what was done to them. Thousands of Gazans dead; mostly civilians. This is what happens to you when you commit genocide for decades. 

[uncle bernard]

3 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Netanyahu said regime change is coming to Iran sooner than you think. 

Well yeah, he's trying to force us into going to war with them for this purpose. Good luck with that though.

How are you this naive?

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Well yeah, he's trying to force us into going to war with them for this purpose. Good luck with that though.

How are you this naive?

We'll do whatever he wants. He's our daddy. 

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

We'll do whatever he wants. He's our daddy. 

The pride of the Philly suburbs

[Bigbrog]

18 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

The pride of the Philly suburbs

Seriously...WTF is wrong with you??

[red viking]

28 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Seriously...WTF is wrong with you??

what's wrong with that? I don't even live in Philadelphia. I'm embarrassed to be a U.S. citizen with us taking the side of that genocidal maniac. 

[uncle bernard]

41 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Seriously...WTF is wrong with you??

What was wrong with that statement?

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Israel's attack on Gaza was nothing remotely close 

Israel's counterattack on Gaza was nothing even close to proportiional to what was done to them. Thousands of Gazans dead; mostly civilians. This is what happens to you when you commit genocide for decades. 

is that anything like the last 50 years of arab attacks

[Scouts Honor]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

\. I'm embarrassed to be a U.S. citizen 

 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

is that anything like the last 50 years of arab attacks

Israel got off very light with all the new land that they decided to take themselves since 1948 and ongoing brutality against the Palestinians. In both Gaza and West Bank. 

[uncle bernard]

10 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

is that anything like the last 50 years of arab attacks

Israel's killed far far more arabs than the other way around. You're arguing against demonstrable reality and the only way that's possible is if you don't value arab lives the same as others.

[mspart]

Israel has been attacked more than any other country in the area since 1948.  So they are likely going to kill more arabs since they are the ones attacking them. 

mspart

[red viking]

They've killed orders of magnitude more Arabs than they've suffered on their own, and continued to take more land away from Arabs. 

They have whatever comes to their way now. 

[mspart]

16 minutes ago, red viking said:

They have whatever comes to their way now. 

And you are complaining about it when they defend themselves.  

They have not gone to war against anyone as the aggressor.   They have answered the aggressor with very aggressive defense.   And the world has a tizzy when that happens.  Jordan and Egypt have learned their lesson.   They don't do that anymore you'll notice. 

Iran has pushed them to their limit via hamas and hezbollah.   Iran just fired over a hundred missiles at Israel.   But I'm sure you will say Israel should not retaliate.   That is just idiotic.   Iran did this precisely for the carnage of hezbollah, they said so.  Their favorite pet has been squashed because they were planting the seeds of major escalation.   So your solution would be for Israel to forgive Iran for over a hundred missiles, hexbollah for constant rocket attacks, hamas for constant rocket attacks and an incursion that killed 1200 people and carried off 200 prisoners.   It won't end until Israel is allowed to defend itself properly and learn these guys to stop attacking them like they did with Jordan and Egypt.   

mspart