Biggest betrayal, wrestler to coaching?

[jchapman]

14 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Bono doesn't count.  He's a Turdbiscuit.  We should expect no good things from him insofar as his character goes.

Home Run!

[WrestlingRash]

15 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

@WrestlingRash hasn't won a single exchange with @nhs67 in this entire thread.

wins come late

[Wrestleknownothing]

38 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

wins come late

Or not at all

[WrestlingRash]

26 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Or not at all

Some people think it's ethical to work two jobs at once. I am not one of those people. Especially when it's driven by a massive ego stroke and nothing else, but hey, to each their own. I am entitled to my opinion, and it's funny to me that so many on here get triggered when I point it out. Imagine the audacity to not group think every single topic!?!? And to further my amusement, NHS comes in as the vocal manifestation of the group think here on this forum, authoritatively declaring his opinion as group think fact. Its quite funny. 

[TNwrestling]

12 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

Some people think it's ethical to work two jobs at once. I am not one of those people. 

I work two jobs. I wait tables on the weekend to put my wife through nursing school. Is that ethical?

[nhs67]

16 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

Some people think it's ethical to work two jobs at once. I am not one of those people. Especially when it's driven by a massive ego stroke and nothing else, but hey, to each their own. I am entitled to my opinion, and it's funny to me that so many on here get triggered when I point it out. Imagine the audacity to not group think every single topic!?!? And to further my amusement, NHS comes in as the vocal manifestation of the group think here on this forum, authoritatively declaring his opinion as group think fact. Its quite funny. 

Again, I don't think you understand what triggered means.

You actively jumped on every active thread that mentioned David Taylor and persistently bashed him for succeeding in being the best for many days in a row.  That was a prime example of someone that is (and was) triggered, be it jealousy, annoyance, or hate - you acted triggered.

You got called out on it and realized the interpretation of you actually being the one that was triggered was correct so you slunk away and are now playing the defensive 'oh no you guys are being mean to me and singling me out!' and 'I ackchooally have a job so i kant re-sponds' card.  I didn't think you would play this victim card.  That isn't even Beta shit - grow a pair.

You are correct, though - I will give you that:  You are entitled to your own opinion.  It can also be wrong.  It appears that you are having difficulty accepting accountability for that.  That is a you thing, not an anyone else thing - let alone a group thing.

You don't need to try so hard to fail.  You do a swimmingly swell job at doing that by simply existing.

[nhs67]

10 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

I work two jobs. I wait tables on the weekend to put my wife through nursing school. Is that ethical?

You aren't allowed to work two jobs.  Please see the prior posts saying that you can't.  It is written, so it is law.

[nhs67]

Can we all please stop picking on @WrestlingRash.  It is abundantly clear that he isn't up for this.

[Wrestleknownothing]

33 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Again, I don't think you understand what triggered means.

You actively jumped on every active thread that mentioned David Taylor and persistently bashed him for succeeding in being the best for many days in a row.  That was a prime example of someone that is (and was) triggered, be it jealousy, annoyance, or hate - you acted triggered.

You got called out on it and realized the interpretation of you actually being the one that was triggered was correct so you slunk away and are now playing the defensive 'oh no you guys are being mean to me and singling me out!' and 'I ackchooally have a job so i kant re-sponds' card.  I didn't think you would play this victim card.  That isn't even Beta shit - grow a pair.

You are correct, though - I will give you that:  You are entitled to your own opinion.  It can also be wrong.  It appears that you are having difficulty accepting accountability for that.  That is a you thing, not an anyone else thing - let alone a group thing.

You don't need to try so hard to fail.  You do a swimmingly swell job at doing that by simply existing.

I will thank you not to bring swimming into this.

[Wrestleknownothing]

58 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

Some people think it's ethical to work two jobs at once. I am not one of those people. Especially when it's driven by a massive ego stroke and nothing else, but hey, to each their own. I am entitled to my opinion, and it's funny to me that so many on here get triggered when I point it out. Imagine the audacity to not group think every single topic!?!? And to further my amusement, NHS comes in as the vocal manifestation of the group think here on this forum, authoritatively declaring his opinion as group think fact. Its quite funny. 

agreement =/= group think

[WrestlingRash]

34 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You aren't allowed to work two jobs.  Please see the prior posts saying that you can't.  It is written, so it is law.

not allowed and unethical aren't the same thing. working a side job isn't the same thing as having 2 full time jobs. did the kids who signed up to wrestle at okie state know their coach would only be a part time coach? 

[WrestlingRash]

36 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Again, I don't think you understand what triggered means.

You actively jumped on every active thread that mentioned David Taylor and persistently bashed him for succeeding in being the best for many days in a row.  That was a prime example of someone that is (and was) triggered, be it jealousy, annoyance, or hate - you acted triggered.

You got called out on it and realized the interpretation of you actually being the one that was triggered was correct so you slunk away and are now playing the defensive 'oh no you guys are being mean to me and singling me out!' and 'I ackchooally have a job so i kant re-sponds' card.  I didn't think you would play this victim card.  That isn't even Beta shit - grow a pair.

You are correct, though - I will give you that:  You are entitled to your own opinion.  It can also be wrong.  It appears that you are having difficulty accepting accountability for that.  That is a you thing, not an anyone else thing - let alone a group thing.

You don't need to try so hard to fail.  You do a swimmingly swell job at doing that by simply existing.

where did I play the I have a job and can't respond card? you are just making things up now. 

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

not allowed and unethical aren't the same thing. working a side job isn't the same thing as having 2 full time jobs. did the kids who signed up to wrestle at okie state know their coach would only be a part time coach? 

 

7 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

where did I play the I have a job and can't respond card? you are just making things up now. 

Again:  You're showing your triggered side here.  Toughen up.

[nhs67]

Rash right now...

 

[WrestlingRash]

24 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

 

Again:  You're showing your triggered side here.  Toughen up.

you seem to have mistaken my comment about having 2 jobs (which is a reference to david taylor) as a comment about myself. slow it down, read more carefully, and lay off the caffeine. 

[nhs67]

25 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

you seem to have mistaken my comment about having 2 jobs (which is a reference to david taylor) as a comment about myself. slow it down, read more carefully, and lay off the caffeine. 

You seem to have mistaken my response for anything other than facetiousness.

You need to stop being so triggered about stupid shit.

Did Taylor hurt you?  Do you need to tell us on the emotional doll where you were hurt?

[WrestlingRash]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You seem to have mistaken my response for anything other than facetiousness.

You need to stop being so triggered about stupid shit.

Did Taylor hurt you?  Do you need to tell us on the emotional doll where you were hurt?

so sensitive! its cute. keep going, we are laughing at you. 

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

so sensitive! its cute. keep going, we are laughing at you. 

Multiple personality disorder is not a joke!  Millions suffer from it every day!

[TNwrestling]

32 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

so sensitive! its cute. keep going, we are laughing at you. 

You have a mouse in your pocket?

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

8 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Can we all please stop picking on @WrestlingRash.  It is abundantly clear that he isn't up for this.

 

Edited October 2 by Saylors_Tiny_Willie

[BobB]

Sanderson also wrestled in the Worlds when he was coaching.  But I believe he did as a challenge to his team to win the NCAA tournament.  The deal was is if they win then he would compete again.  I believe it went something like that.  If this was the situation I could see this as inspiring his athletes and building comradery. 

Taylor sounds like this is all about him.   Did the athletic department come to him and say we want you to compete and bring name recognition to the program or something like that?  It is legitimate to question what his new athletes will think about this.  Was he able to give attention to Dayton Fix as much as he could?  Is it possible that maybe Fix didn't get the focus that he needed?  

I cant see how the hours he dedicates to his own training and competition is better for Oklahoma State than using those hours for his team.  Maybe in a situation like when Sanderson came to compete you can justify it.

 

 

[TNwrestling]

48 minutes ago, BobB said:

Sanderson also wrestled in the Worlds when he was coaching.  But I believe he did as a challenge to his team to win the NCAA tournament.  The deal was is if they win then he would compete again.  I believe it went something like that.  If this was the situation I could see this as inspiring his athletes and building comradery. 

Taylor sounds like this is all about him.   Did the athletic department come to him and say we want you to compete and bring name recognition to the program or something like that?  It is legitimate to question what his new athletes will think about this.  Was he able to give attention to Dayton Fix as much as he could?  Is it possible that maybe Fix didn't get the focus that he needed?  

I cant see how the hours he dedicates to his own training and competition is better for Oklahoma State than using those hours for his team.  Maybe in a situation like when Sanderson came to compete you can justify it.

 

 

@WrestlingRash burner account

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, BobB said:

Sanderson also wrestled in the Worlds when he was coaching.  But I believe he did as a challenge to his team to win the NCAA tournament.  The deal was is if they win then he would compete again.  I believe it went something like that.  If this was the situation I could see this as inspiring his athletes and building comradery. 

Taylor sounds like this is all about him.   Did the athletic department come to him and say we want you to compete and bring name recognition to the program or something like that?  It is legitimate to question what his new athletes will think about this.  Was he able to give attention to Dayton Fix as much as he could?  Is it possible that maybe Fix didn't get the focus that he needed?  

I cant see how the hours he dedicates to his own training and competition is better for Oklahoma State than using those hours for his team.  Maybe in a situation like when Sanderson came to compete you can justify it.

 

 

wtf are you talking about? Taylor can literally roll out of bed and tech every domestic & international competitor with an exception of 3 or 4 people at 86 or 92 until proven otherwise, and one of those people (Yazdani) he has pinned multiple times. You think Taylor was training his ass off to beat Zahid Musukaev?

[BobB]

59 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

@WrestlingRash burner account

 

I assure you I am not @WrestlingRash.  Do you think a coach who is also competing can be the best at both these jobs at the same time?  The fact that he will be traveling overseas at the very least will mean he will spend last time as his Head coach job. 

20 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

wtf are you talking about? Taylor can literally roll out of bed and tech every domestic & international competitor with an exception of 3 or 4 people at 86 or 92 until proven otherwise, and one of those people (Yazdani) he has pinned multiple times. You think Taylor was training his ass off to beat Zahid Musukaev?

This is a ridiculous statement.  Are you saying he is not training for this competition?  Of course he is.  Does his training take away and distract him from his head coaching responsibility.  I can't see how it could not.

 

John Smith was also competing and coaching at the same time.  He was actually competing in freestyle with his athlete in the same weight class.  Sounds to me like a conflict of interest.

Maybe this is one last hoorah for him and Oklahoma State doesn't see it as too much of a distraction.

Also @bnwtwg did you include Kyle Dake in the exception list of 3 or 4 people.  It is funny that Taylor will never beat Kyle Dake and Taylor has an olympic Gold while Dake does not.

 

Now I am going to contradict myself.  I am excited about seeing a finals match between Sadulaev and Taylor.  If Taylor were to beat him in the finals, that would a classic ending to an incredible career.

If he loses to Sadulaev how will that effect him? 

 

 

 

[scourge165]

On 9/23/2024 at 10:24 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Not really a rival, though?  I don't think Iowa was very good.

Has to be the man they used to call "Bail Sanderson" going to PSU after his mentor was pushed out of the ISU job.

I understand why he did it, and it has worked out.... but he went from the top job at a historically significant program to come to PSU.  None of these other guys left head coaching positions that were gifted to them.

I think this is a stupid topic...but unless there's part of Wrestling history I'm missing, ie, Gable being offered or courted by ISU, then...this is the answer. Pushes out Douglas and then leaves for the most talent-rich state in the Country.

I remember when this happened I thought PSU becoming a powerhouse was a given. Just the Greatest College Wrestler ever along with the #1 Wrestling State(by a lot) for College talent. You knew he'd pick up recruits and the way ISU was trending, he'd develop them.

 

I don't like the word betrayal, but it's by far the closest thing. I did think ISU tried to hire Gable at some point though and I don't blame him or think it's a betrayal for not going back. 

DT was blocked by 4-5 guys, namely Cunningham, a guy who'd be the most sought-after HC IF he left, so who'd he betray?

 

But he was building something at ISU and IIRC, Taylor was headed to wrestle at ISU, right?

 

So for this stupid question, this is the obvious answer.