Are Republicans Insecure About Their Masculinity?

[ThreePointTakedown]

On 9/7/2024 at 3:07 PM, WrestlingRasta said:

It is not clear to you, and that is not a surprise. 

Why do you have to do that? You have not made your point very clear in my opinion. I am offering you an opportunity to do that. Can you? Do you want? Is it even possible? 

Or are you happier to make snide remarks rather than expand on your thought?

[ThreePointTakedown]

On 9/9/2024 at 11:15 PM, Lipdrag said:

 

There is nothing stable about this.  Unless one considers death of an ethnic and cultural as a long term state of stableness.  I guess the Neanderthals have been stable for several millenia now.

 

https://archive.is/dGiQX

Death of every ethnic culture is inevitable. Culture changes. You can read about the 'culture' of America from 100 years ago and how its vastly different to today. If you want to preserve a culture in its pure form there can be no mixing in of any outside genetics or influence. You get awfully close  to practicing a form of Eugenics if you go too far down that road. Not ideal. 

Its going to happen whether you want it or like it or not. No amount of birth rate or fertility rates will change it. People will move away. Others will move in. That 'culture' as you put it will eventually disappear as it currently stands. To be replaced with a similar but different one. Hopefully, having excised any negative aspects and gained more positive influences to that which makes up the 'culture'. We only get better when we mix. 

[WrestlingRasta]

41 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Why do you have to do that? You have not made your point very clear in my opinion. I am offering you an opportunity to do that. Can you? Do you want? Is it even possible? 

Or are you happier to make snide remarks rather than expand on your thought?

I made very clear where and how rights are infringed. If you disagree, or cannot comprehend what I am saying, it is not on me, nor do I have any interest, in going on and on talking in circles. 
 

I wrote three paragraphs, very clearly, and don’t really feel there is a need for me to expand. My comment is not a snide remark, it is an opinion that I’m not surprised you are not understanding what I am saying, or just deciding I didn’t make a point.  I’m not trying to change your mind, I said what I said. I didn’t expect you to agree or see it my way, hence…..no surprise. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

On 9/11/2024 at 12:21 PM, WrestlingRasta said:

I made very clear where and how rights are infringed. If you disagree, or cannot comprehend what I am saying, it is not on me, nor do I have any interest, in going on and on talking in circles. 
 

I wrote three paragraphs, very clearly, and don’t really feel there is a need for me to expand. My comment is not a snide remark, it is an opinion that I’m not surprised you are not understanding what I am saying, or just deciding I didn’t make a point.  I’m not trying to change your mind, I said what I said. I didn’t expect you to agree or see it my way, hence…..no surprise. 

Your argument boils down to. I'm uncomfortable in this situation and my opinion should be taken into account in denying people equal rights. I'll repeat what I've said before. Tough. You lose on this situation with that argument. Thankfully. You always will and again, thankfully. 

So you agree that you have no rights to be 'comfortable' in public. Because at no point has it been proven that anyone is in danger if trans people are allowed to use the bathroom that they choose. 

And again, they already do that, and you have had no problem with it for years until the point was brought up specifically so that it would trigger you and people like you to fear them and in so doing making you easily manipulated to vote against the interests of your fellow humans in giving them equal rights for 'fear' of you and your family being uncomfortable in a place you have no RIGHT to be anyway.

So no rights at all. Let alone any being infringed. Got it. Thank you. Glad you weren't interested in changing my mind with that weak ass argument. 

If you just want to deny equal rights to certain people. Just come out and say it. You've all but done that already. 

[wrestlingguy]

10 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Your argument boils down to. I'm uncomfortable in this situation and my opinion should be taken into account in denying people equal rights. I'll repeat what I've said before. Tough. You lose on this situation with that argument. Thankfully. You always will and again, thankfully. 

So you agree that you have no rights to be 'comfortable' in public. Because at no point has it been proven that anyone is in danger if trans people are allowed to use the bathroom that they choose. 

And again, they already do that, and you have had no problem with it for years until the point was brought up specifically so that it would trigger you and people like you to fear them and in so doing making you easily manipulated to vote against the interests of your fellow humans in giving them equal rights for 'fear' of you and your family being uncomfortable in a place you have no RIGHT to be anyway.

So no rights at all. Let alone any being infringed. Got it. Thank you. Glad you weren't interested in changing my mind with that weak ass argument. 

If you just want to deny equal rights to certain people. Just come out and say it. You've all but done that already. 

You act like trans people can't use the restroom. Why do they have the right to use a different restroom more than anyone else? Because they deem themselves special? They still have equal rights because they aren't being denied a restroom to relieve themselves.

[ThreePointTakedown]

12 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

You act like trans people can't use the restroom. Why do they have the right to use a different restroom more than anyone else? Because they deem themselves special? They still have equal rights because they aren't being denied a restroom to relieve themselves.

They don't have a right more than anyone else. There is no right. There are no laws saying bathrooms have to be used by certain genders or sexes and there are no mechanisms, that anyone should or would be comfortable with to determine who qualifies. 

You aren't going to stop them from doing it. What it comes down to is the argument itself and what opposing this issue represents. The argument perpetuates a stigma that trans people are more dangerous or abnormal than anyone else that you might meet. They aren't. This stereotype is DANGEROUS. It leads to people, having a propensity towards violence, to act upon it if they feel threatened. By offering trans people as a possible target you are putting a vulnerable population in jeopardy of harm from others or by ostracizing them, self harm. 

Its the same argument for segregation or against the civil rights act. The founding documents allowed all those freedoms from the jump but we had racist institutions(judges and other authorities) that would not validate those rights. And organizations that would terrorize populations into submission. Until the Civil War and again the Civil Rights Act. Neither of which should have been needed at all, considering 'All Men Are Created Equal' appears on a signed document somewhere. But we still had to fight against our worst demons to fix these things because certain people with an interest, be it idealogical or financial, in maintaining the status quo kept making the same arguments that are being used to justify denying trans people their rights. They were bogus then and they are still bogus. People are uncomfortable with change. That is not news. What makes it news is when people tell lies in order to demonize a segment of the population for the political gain of another. They might not know they are lying but should try to be better informed before arguing in such a way that would have put you on the wrong side of slavery and civil rights if not for a few decades of time. 

[wrestlingguy]

10 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

They don't have a right more than anyone else. There is no right. There are no laws saying bathrooms have to be used by certain genders or sexes and there are no mechanisms, that anyone should or would be comfortable with to determine who qualifies. 

You aren't going to stop them from doing it. What it comes down to is the argument itself and what opposing this issue represents. The argument perpetuates a stigma that trans people are more dangerous or abnormal than anyone else that you might meet. They aren't. This stereotype is DANGEROUS. It leads to people, having a propensity towards violence, to act upon it if they feel threatened. By offering trans people as a possible target you are putting a vulnerable population in jeopardy of harm from others or by ostracizing them, self harm. 

Its the same argument for segregation or against the civil rights act. The founding documents allowed all those freedoms from the jump but we had racist institutions(judges and other authorities) that would not validate those rights. And organizations that would terrorize populations into submission. Until the Civil War and again the Civil Rights Act. Neither of which should have been needed at all, considering 'All Men Are Created Equal' appears on a signed document somewhere. But we still had to fight against our worst demons to fix these things because certain people with an interest, be it idealogical or financial, in maintaining the status quo kept making the same arguments that are being used to justify denying trans people their rights. They were bogus then and they are still bogus. People are uncomfortable with change. That is not news. What makes it news is when people tell lies in order to demonize a segment of the population for the political gain of another. They might not know they are lying but should try to be better informed before arguing in such a way that would have put you on the wrong side of slavery and civil rights if not for a few decades of time. 

You said the trans people need "equal rights" so I would infer that means there is a right. I would argue that the mechanism is the label on the restroom door saying "men" and "woman". Although there are more and more gender neutral bathrooms popping up. Nobody is saying trans people are dangerous. What is dangerous is setting the precedent that anyone can use any bathroom, which sets up capabilities for predators to abuse. I think you could also argue that them having their own bathroom is also segregation right?

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Your argument boils down to. I'm uncomfortable in this situation and my opinion should be taken into account in denying people equal rights. I'll repeat what I've said before. Tough. You lose on this situation with that argument. Thankfully. You always will and again, thankfully. 

So you agree that you have no rights to be 'comfortable' in public. Because at no point has it been proven that anyone is in danger if trans people are allowed to use the bathroom that they choose. 

And again, they already do that, and you have had no problem with it for years until the point was brought up specifically so that it would trigger you and people like you to fear them and in so doing making you easily manipulated to vote against the interests of your fellow humans in giving them equal rights for 'fear' of you and your family being uncomfortable in a place you have no RIGHT to be anyway.

So no rights at all. Let alone any being infringed. Got it. Thank you. Glad you weren't interested in changing my mind with that weak ass argument. 

If you just want to deny equal rights to certain people. Just come out and say it. You've all but done that already. 

That was alot. You seem upset. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

6 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

You said the trans people need "equal rights" so I would infer that means there is a right. I would argue that the mechanism is the label on the restroom door saying "men" and "woman". Although there are more and more gender neutral bathrooms popping up. Nobody is saying trans people are dangerous. What is dangerous is setting the precedent that anyone can use any bathroom, which sets up capabilities for predators to abuse. I think you could also argue that them having their own bathroom is also segregation right?

Having labels on a bathroom based on gender or sex and wanting those enforced when there has never been a law to do so, yes, is segregation. 

Do you think predators don't use bathrooms, of theirs or another gender, already? 

Like I said, the issue of using the bathroom is moot. They have and will continue to do it anyway and there is no enforcement mechanism other than not wanting to rock the boat in a public or private venue. However comfortable someone is to use the bathroom they feel best represents them and having the support of the community is what we are talking about. The support. That's all. 

There has been nothing offered to show that trans people using the bathroom or locker room they prefer would jeopardize anyone to a higher extent than not. Could some people be more demure and mindful about showing youngish kids some anatomy that they might not otherwise be familiar with? Yes. I'm on board with that. Again, its the making of waves that people are bothered with and how uncomfortable it makes them feel. Sorry but protecting your comfort is not something that should be legislated. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

5 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

That was alot. You seem upset. 

I'm long winded but I'm good. 

Thanks for the concern and your attempt to gas light. Always the hallmark of a losing side. 

Since you have no other points on this topic that you care to discuss and nothing to back them up  I'll just take this well deserved W and hit the showers. I would hate to infringe on you any more than is necessary. 

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

I'm long winded but I'm good. 

Thanks for the concern and your attempt to gas light. Always the hallmark of a losing side. 

Since you have no other points on this topic that you care to discuss and nothing to back them up  I'll just take this well deserved W and hit the showers. I would hate to infringe on you any more than is necessary. 

‘W’ on an anonymous message board. 

Enjoy that shower, just make sure you rinse off real good after. Wouldn’t want anything to get sticky before bed time.  

[Scouts Honor]

On 9/12/2024 at 1:04 PM, ThreePointTakedown said:

Your argument boils down to. I'm uncomfortable in this situation and my opinion should be taken into account in denying people equal rights. I'll repeat what I've said before. Tough. You lose on this situation with that argument. Thankfully. You always will and again, thankfully. 

 

TPT YOUR argument boils down to trans people are uncomfortable in the correct RR and their opinion should be taken into account in denying people the right to privacy in the RR.

i repeat.

tough.

YOU LOSE.

[Scouts Honor]

On 9/12/2024 at 1:44 PM, ThreePointTakedown said:

They don't have a right more than anyone else. There is no right. There are no laws saying bathrooms have to be used by certain genders or sexes and there are no mechanisms,

 

pretty sure, there was a time, not so long ago, that hillary or michel or kamala

would have sued any man who came in after them in a women's RR. 

and won.

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