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4 minutes ago, Le duke said:


He literally took a TD from Brooks.


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Two wrongs don't make a right. It literally proves that ref couldn't help but interject himself into that match!

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3 minutes ago, Le duke said:


Did you miss the TD he took from Brooks?

Like, his physical presence literally denied Brooks a TD.

Zahid threw the brick back. Helpful hint.


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Are you saying the ref had good takedown defense?

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Can anyone post proof of the singlet pull?
Zahid not accepting the brick seems damning.  But I want to see this.  Ref was super adamant about it.  Seems like side judges decided to trust him.

The brick said “free car” on it. What would you do?
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1 minute ago, bnwtwg said:

Two wrongs don't make a right. It literally proves that ref couldn't help but interject himself into that match!

Le duke can't see anything outside of his Penn State colored glasses, don't bother 

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8 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Clearly biased refs were clearly biased against both Burroughs at 74 KG and Valencia at 86 KG.

That was bullshit.

There is no reasonable way to claim that Borroughs should have won the match.   He was nowhere near a takedown and needed one to win.   He was out-wrestled and out-hustled no matter what one might claim actually or hypothetically about what the ref did or didn't do.  

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6 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Can anyone post proof of the singlet pull?

Zahid not accepting the brick seems damning.  But I want to see this.  Ref was super adamant about it.  Seems like side judges decided to trust him.

I didn't see a singlet pull and they didn't show one on replay.  But what I don't get is why Zahid (or his corner) didn't ask for the challenge.   

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5 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Le duke can't see anything outside of his Penn State colored glasses, don't bother 

If they told me I had a VO2 of 79 I wouldn't either lol

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1 minute ago, SocraTease said:

There is no reasonable way to claim that Borroughs should have won the match.   He was nowhere near a takedown and needed one to win.   He was out-wrestled and out-hustled no matter what one might claim actually or hypothetically about what the ref did or didn't do.  

Doesn't change the fact that the reffing was horseshit. Mendez chased Zain around and never got a passivity call either when his decided the match. Just bullshit all around. Enjoy the gifts. 

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1 minute ago, pokemonster said:

Doesn't change the fact that the reffing was horseshit. Mendez chased Zain around and never got a passivity call either when his decided the match. Just bullshit all around. Enjoy the gifts. 

It's almost like the trials/NCAAs being in Stillwater or Iowa City. Be happy we have fans in the building but hope for the best with the people who win the spots.

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3 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Doesn't change the fact that the reffing was horseshit. Mendez chased Zain around and never got a passivity call either when his decided the match. Just bullshit all around. Enjoy the gifts. 

I can agree that the reffing was inconsistent and at time head scratching.  And I don't enjoy the gifts because they aren't mine to enjoy.   

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1 minute ago, Le duke said:


Never claimed 79.


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Oh sorry, what was the number in the upper 70s? I can ask @jross for the transcript if you don't remember off the top of your head.

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I didn't see a singlet pull and they didn't show one on replay.  But what I don't get is why Zahid (or his corner) didn't ask for the challenge.   

Zahid’s corner threw the brick; he sent it back.

Pretty indicative.


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Oh sorry, what was the number in the upper 70s? I can ask [mention=12]jross[/mention] for the transcript if you don't remember off the top of your head.

Never claimed upper 70s. But go ahead, champ.


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4 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

If they told me I had a VO2 of 79 I wouldn't either lol

79 VO2 is nearly off the charts.   Mine was around 60 when I ran marathons and wrestled.   It's low 40's now that I'm 62.  Trying to work it back up. 

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2 minutes ago, Le duke said:


Never claimed upper 70s. But go ahead, champ.


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Pretty sure that was what you quoted. Maybe I'm slightly off. I can dig through the receipts if you want me to be petty, champ.

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