2024 OTT Day 1 Session 2 thread

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, Gus said:

Sure but in the first period Burroughs got hit with passivity for not holding center well. In the second Nolf did not get hit for passivity and he ran and avoided the edge for 2 minutes. 

Pushing on a collar tie and shoving isn't going to get you a passivity call.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

5 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Typical classless PA fans.  Also booed Santa and cheered Michael Irvin's temporary paralysis.

Classless Penn St fan, singular. We are all wondering what that guy's problem is.

[peanut]

NLWC at the OTTs so far

• 57kg finals is NLWC (Gilman) vs. Lee
• 65kg finals is NLWC (Lee) vs. NLWC (Zain)
• 74kg finals is NLWC (Nolf) vs. NLWC (Dake)
• 86kg finals is NLWC (Brooks)/Valencia vs. NLWC (DT)
• 97kg finals is NLWC (Snyder) vs. Trumble
• 125kg finals is Parris vs. Zillmer/Gwiz

That's 7 or 8 out of 12 finalists coming from NLWC. Nutty.

 

Edited April 20 by peanut

[Pinnacle]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

But fled Burroughs...

He grew.

[wrestle87]

Just now, NormMacDonald said:

JB just looks done.. Father time finally got him

Father time and being a father of five...that's a lot of (and more meaningful) demand on your time and energy than a wrestling practice, no matter who you are.  

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

7 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

If JB had taken a single shot...they would have given it to him.  Refs won't pull the trigger on helping when collar tie hand grab push is your offense.  Burroughs didn't take any shots in that second period either (that I can remember...I was a bit on the edge of my seat watching that match.)

Edit: I forgot they also gave JB some breaks on those two challenges.  Not saying those were the wrong calls, but they have to be called consistently, and based on what they did for JB in the first period, I think they did the right thing by nolf in the 2nd.  

This is one of the worst takes I've seen today. You even edited it to make sure it was the worst possible take. But I get it, you're a fan. So am I. So bring on the bad takes, build up the fervor, be a fan. Cheers! 

[Gus]

2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Pushing on a collar tie and shoving isn't going to get you a passivity call.  

Have you watched freestyle wrestling much? Passivity calls happen when guys just hold center and don’t take shots. Not even marching their opponent around with a collar tie. 

[Pinnacle]

Didn't Jb recently win a match on only push outs? If so, where has his elite offense gone?

[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

This is one of the worst takes I've seen today. You even edited it to make sure it was the worst possible take. But I get it, you're a fan. So am I. So bring on the bad takes, build up the fervor, be a fan. Cheers! 

What wrestle87 posted is the correct take.  People get passionate and see what they want to see based on who they want to win.  Collar tie, push, & shove isn't going to get your opponent put on the clock

[bnwtwg]

79 is going to be a high key fire WTT bracket. Expected participants should be Nolf (loses to Dake tomorrow), Burroughs, Zahid if he loses to Brooks (goes 92 if he wins), Ringer, Starocci, Joseph, KOT, Carr, Pissenbrink. That is straight up fireworks before quarters begin.

[wrestle87]

Trumble is really having his way with Moore right now...

[4xJVchamp]

3 minutes ago, peanut said:

NLWC at the OTTs so far

• 57kg finals is NLWC (Gilman) vs. Lee
• 65kg finals is NLWC (Lee) vs. NLWC (Zain)
• 74kg finals is NLWC (Nolf) vs. NLWC (Dake)
• 86kg finals is NLWC (Brooks) vs. NLWC (DT)
• 97kg finals is NLWC (Snyder) vs. Trumble/Moore
• 125kg finals is Parris vs. Zillmer/Gwiz

That's 8 out of 12 finalists coming from NLWC. Nutty.

 

Did I miss the Brooks vs Valencia match?

[Gus]

Trumble has very tricky defense. He looks great at 97kg. Wonder what his plan is for next year. 

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Gus said:

Have you watched freestyle wrestling much? Passivity calls happen when guys just hold center and don’t take shots. Not even marching their opponent around with a collar tie. 

I watch a lot of wrestling and am very familiar with freestyle

[bnwtwg]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

Have you watched freestyle wrestling much? Passivity calls happen when guys just hold center and don’t take shots. Not even marching their opponent around with a collar tie. 

It's almost like people don't understand the fundamental differences between free and folk, and that free is ref'd incorrectly very often domestically.

[oldschool]

Just now, 4xJVchamp said:

Did I miss the Brooks vs Valencia match?

no; it's coming up in 3 matches on mat 1. last match of the night I think

[bnwtwg]

1 minute ago, wrestle87 said:

Trumble is really having his way with Moore right now...

Did not see this coming. Moore getting the Ringer career treatment times ten because this feels like it's already over. Moore is smoked.

[peanut]

3 minutes ago, 4xJVchamp said:

Did I miss the Brooks vs Valencia match?

Oops. My mistake. Fixed it.

Edited April 20 by peanut

[bnwtwg]

But I should add that taking out a multiple time world champ will wear you down. It's the Metcalf Effect.

[oldschool]

Remaining matches tonight:

[pokemonster]

11 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Imagine no knee injury and no swimming pool match.

Imagine him and Dake actually made it past Burroughs all of the years he was winning medals. 

[NormMacDonald]

Just now, oldschool said:

Remaining matches tonight:

Thanks.. I was wondering.. struggling to not fall asleep.. I'm old

[SocraTease]

Nolf won and was the better wrestler today.  Active; strategic; took all of the shots, and could have easily gotten the two on the spin around on the edge, which they denied on the review.   Borroughs did a whole lot of nothing.   He's a legendary wrestler but his time is up.   Maybe he will try 79KG for the non-Olympic weights in the fall, but I kind of doubt it.

JB elevated American wrestling but at his back time's winged chariot has been hurrying near.

[wrestle87]

Just now, bnwtwg said:

Did not see this coming. Moore getting the Ringer career treatment times ten because this feels like it's already over. Moore is smoked.

For real.  He used to be the gatekeeper (kinda), but he got taken apart.  Now, granted he may have been entirely laser focused on Cox then snyder, but that's a heck of a whooping for just a mental lapse. 

[4xJVchamp]

2 minutes ago, peanut said:

Oops. My mistake. I think Brooks wins though.

Yea he’s the favorite but certainly not by much