Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 How many transfers ended up faring more poorly than before? Nagao 5th -> DNP Truax 4th -> 5th Franek 5th -> 8th Woods 2nd (at Iowa) -> 4th Griffith 1st (past season) -> 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I get Jimbo alway reaching, but I’ll add a legitimate point here. Sure individually some of them didn’t quite make it as far as last year but enter in people moving weights and coming back from injury or redshirts and you get some of that. But on the team side of things the question would be was their “WAR” (in baseball terms) value enough to improve the teams chances. Did that team preform better by adding them to the lineup than if the squad went with who was slotted as the next man up instead. I’d assume that’s a big enough yes for those teams to want to keep diving into the transfer portal to fill some of their gaps until a young recruit develops more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: How many transfers ended up faring more poorly than before? Nagao 5th -> DNP Truax 4th -> 5th Franek 5th -> 8th Woods 2nd (at Iowa) -> 4th Griffith 1st (past season) -> 3rd Messenbeink cal b to —> to the ncaa finals. Edited March 23 by Caveira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Caveira said: Messenbeink cal b to —> to the ncaa finals. Doesn't fit the narrative Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: How many transfers ended up faring more poorly than before? Nagao 5th -> DNP Truax 4th -> 5th Franek 5th -> 8th Woods 2nd (at Iowa) -> 4th Griffith 1st (past season) -> 3rd Caliendo-7th -4th Davison 5th to finalist Oeljnik- 8th- 5th Slavakouski- R12- 7th Gomez DNP- finalist Smith - DNP 0-2 - 6th also Griffith 5th-3rd Edited March 23 by Antitroll2828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 19 minutes ago, Caveira said: Messenbeink cal b to —> to the ncaa finals. Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwave Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Please remember most of these young men turned their back at schools who recruited and invested in them when no one else did. exclude Gomez not sure how many schools he has been at 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Fred said: Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there? He was at Cal Baptist. They gave him an offer that he accepted but then he kinda blew up after at the age group World Trials and World Championships. He choose to honor his commitment to them after. If I have this right he competed in two open matches as a redshirt, then decided he needed to look at other options cause Cal Baptist didn’t seem to be a fit for his ambitions. He went home to finish his class work online. Then got PSU to pick him up https://www.flowrestling.org/video/10319660-why-mitchell-mesenbrink-is-entering-the-portal Edited March 23 by MadMardigain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Fred said: Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there? I dunno. Jordan burrows just confirmed Messenbrink was on the cal Baptist roster last year. Ask him what that means ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Fred said: Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there? Never even wrestled. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Caveira said: I dunno. Jordan burrows just confirmed Messenbrink was on the cal Baptist roster last year. Ask him what that means ? No he wasn't. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, MadMardigain said: He was at Cal Baptist. They gave him an offer that he accepted but then he kinda blew up after at the age group World Trials and World Championships. He choose to honor his commitment to them after. If I have this right he competed in two open matches as a redshirt, then decided he needed to look at other options cause Cal Baptist didn’t seem to be a fit for his ambitions. He went home to finish his class work online. Then got PSU to pick him up https://www.flowrestling.org/video/10319660-why-mitchell-mesenbrink-is-entering-the-portal nope . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, ionel said: nope Care to clarify what “nope” refers to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, MadMardigain said: Care to clarify what “nope” refers to? Messenbrink was never at Cal B. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ionel said: No he wasn't. I mean. He even had two matches. Looks like wrestlestat is wrong too https://gopsusports.com/sports/wrestling/roster/mitchell-mesenbrink/15284 Edited March 23 by Caveira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ionel said: Messenbrink was never at Cal B. https://cbulancers.com/news/2022/11/5/mitchell-mesenbrink-go-undefeated-on-opening-day-for-cbu-wrestling.aspx Trumps already has enough conspiracy theorist and deniers lined up for this years campaign, so need keeping up the dilusion. You are fine just come back to reality Edited March 23 by MadMardigain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 hours ago, MadMardigain said: I get Jimbo alway reaching, but I’ll add a legitimate point here. Sure individually some of them didn’t quite make it as far as last year but enter in people moving weights and coming back from injury or redshirts and you get some of that. But on the team side of things the question would be was their “WAR” (in baseball terms) value enough to improve the teams chances. Did that team preform better by adding them to the lineup than if the squad went with who was slotted as the next man up instead. I’d assume that’s a big enough yes for those teams to want to keep diving into the transfer portal to fill some of their gaps until a young recruit develops more. Love the WAR reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, MadMardigain said: https://cbulancers.com/news/2022/11/5/mitchell-mesenbrink-go-undefeated-on-opening-day-for-cbu-wrestling.aspx Trumps already has enough conspiracy theorist and deniers lined up for this years campaign, so you are fine just come back to reality. Mitchell Mesenbrink and Caden Gerlach Go Undefeated On Opening Day For CBU Wrestling That ain't Messenbrink. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, ionel said: Mitchell Mesenbrink and Caden Gerlach Go Undefeated On Opening Day For CBU Wrestling That ain't Messenbrink. Thanks Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Messenbrink was an absolute badass before he got to Penn state. Even beat Haines. He is not an example supporting your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Fred said: Messenbrink was an absolute badass before he got to Penn state. Even beat Haines. He is not an example supporting your point Messenbrink again, who is this guy, is he related to Stevenson? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, ionel said: Messenbrink again, who is this guy, is he related to Stevenson? Yes, I believe so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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