nhs67 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: USAW did not want to deal with Cornell's lawyers. Came here to say this. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, SocraTease said: As I see it, there are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide people into two kinds of people, and those who don't. There are actually five (5) types of people. I am the fifth and the rest of this forum's royalty is also in that category. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 30 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I am the fifth and the rest of this forum's royalty is also in that category. Indeed, Jarl @nhs67... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, SocraTease said: If the submitted pan am lineup was a "placeholder," why not go with the reigning world team member? p.s. I'm not sure if anyone knew this, but both Yianni and Nick Lee are Basch's "guys." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: If the submitted pan am lineup was a "placeholder," why not go with the reigning world team member? p.s. I'm not sure if anyone knew this, but both Yianni and Nick Lee are Basch's "guys." Yeah, that humble brag was a little much. Would have been better if he said "when Yianni and Mick called me for advice, I confirmed they would be wrestling" 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 18 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Yeah, that humble brag was a little much. Would have been better if he said "when Yianni and Mick called me for advice, I confirmed they would be wrestling" Lol, if you listen to his show, it is name drop after name drop. Some great content, but very important to Basch to let us know how tight he is with his "guys." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Some great content, but very important to Basch to let us know how tight he is with his "guys." He does go out of his way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: https://uww.org/article/pan-american-championships-2024-entries Thanks for that, WKN. There is still ambiguity. That article discusses the Pan Am Championships, and there is this: Quote Note: The entries are subject to change till three hours before the official draw of the wrestling style. Then, scroll down and there is a different section or different article that discusses entries for the Pan Am Olympic Qualifier, and that rule is not mentioned! In the schedule of events for the Olympic Qualifier, there is no mention of what time zone. I assume local time, but does Mexico do what many in the US do by referring to Eastern time as some kind of standard? By the way, local time in Acapulco is the same as Central Time in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Thanks for that, WKN. There is still ambiguity. That article discusses the Pan Am Championships, and there is this: Then, scroll down and there is a different section or different article that discusses entries for the Pan Am Olympic Qualifier, and that rule is not mentioned! In the schedule of events for the Olympic Qualifier, there is no mention of what time zone. I assume local time, but does Mexico do what many in the US do by referring to Eastern time as some kind of standard? By the way, local time in Acapulco is the same as Central Time in the United States. My bad. Yes, my link is specific to the Championships, not the OG Qualifier. I can only assume they will follow a similar procedure for the OG Qualifier as for the Championships, but I do not know for sure. Certainly it would be reasonable to assume that the USAW and the PAN-Am organizers have discussed this and know that the US has not yet determined its rep for the OG Qualifier. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: My bad. Yes, my link is specific to the Championships, not the OG Qualifier. I can only assume they will follow a similar procedure for the OG Qualifier as for the Championships, but I do not know for sure. Certainly it would be reasonable to assume that the USAW and the PAN-Am organizers have discussed this and know that the US has not yet determined its rep for the OG Qualifier. Your logic is impeccable. I hope you're right because I actually don't dislike Nick Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Not an original thought by me as someone else told me this, but the USAW should probably rethink this challenge process. It can be bad for both wrestlers as they wind up missing ranking events to prepare for this instead. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not an original thought by me as someone else told me this, but the USAW should probably rethink this challenge process. It can be bad for both wrestlers as they wind up missing ranking events to prepare for this instead. Doing them at Senior Nationals would have been ideal. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not an original thought by me as someone else told me this, but the USAW should probably rethink this challenge process. It can be bad for both wrestlers as they wind up missing ranking events to prepare for this instead. Beats the old process of no challenge, and to be honest I'm not sure how I feel about it. You won the spot then in my eyes you have earned the right through the entirety of the season. The season begins the moment you win the spot and does not conclude until Olympic Team Trials scales open. It's both a perk and a heavy responsibility, nay duty, of being the world team rep. 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Doing them at Senior Nationals would have been ideal. Makes more sense to have them on weight a few weeks prior to the event they are challenging so they can decide to ramp up or taper down and adjust their OTT training schedule accordingly. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Beats the old process of no challenge, and to be honest I'm not sure how I feel about it. You won the spot then in my eyes you have earned the right through the entirety of the season. The season begins the moment you win the spot and does not conclude until Olympic Team Trials scales open. It's both a perk and a heavy responsibility, nay duty, of being the world team rep. Makes more sense to have them on weight a few weeks prior to the event they are challenging so they can decide to ramp up or taper down and adjust their OTT training schedule accordingly. I wasn't even thinking about it in terms of fairness. I was thinking that it is counter productive to USAW goals. If they want to earn medals at the Olympics and World Championships it makes sense to work on better seeds wherever possible (see Rivera, Sebastian). But having this challenge process discourages attendance at ranking events as Diakomihalis and Lee have had to prepare for this instead. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I wasn't even thinking about it in terms of fairness. I was thinking that it is counter productive to USAW goals. If they want to earn medals at the Olympics and World Championships it makes sense to work on better seeds wherever possible (see Rivera, Sebastian). But having this challenge process discourages attendance at ranking events as Diakomihalis and Lee have had to prepare for this instead. I disagree but only because I believe Team USA should not be the gatekeeper for rankings tournies entries. I quite enjoyed Yianni/Retherford at Dogu as an example because it spoke to the Team USA "may the best ahtlete win" mantra. Only the highest ladder entry should be comped, but if someone wants to pay their way then let them enter. Also, not everyone goes to rankings events or they only attend a limited quantity so it is unfortunately a conundrum. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 T-1 hour Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Johnny D up on Lee 3-2 at the break of Match #1. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Head issue with Yianni. Losing big. Banged head on a return early. Looks like crap now. 3-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insidecradle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Nick Lee seems like he has Yianni’s number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Just now, Dark Energy said: Head issue with Yianni. Losing big. Banged head on a return early. Looks like crap now. 3-12 Could be head. Could be altitude. Could be both? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Just now, insidecradle said: Nick Lee seems like he has Yianni’s number Seems? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Nick Lee wins Match #1 12-3 to take his Freestyle record against Johnny D to 4W - 0L. After the Takedown to go up 4-3, Lee poured it on and it honestly looked like Johnny D was broken. He might have gotten injured there (somehow). "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Yianni did not look right after that head bang. Why is FLO only showing the one match? Really strange. There are actually fans of women's wrestling out there, and don't they (FLO) want to help build and support this base? Edited February 3 by SocraTease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I didn't think the head bang was as hard as it might have been. To the point I thought it could have been something else. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, SocraTease said: Yianni did not look right after that head bang. Why is FLO only showing the one match? Really strange. There are actually fans of women's wrestling out there, and don't they want to build and support this base? Because it is only one match on the schedule right now. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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