lu_alum Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Typo in my post above. The correct count is 14 champs from Tulsa Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) I'll eventually get this right. Tulsa Central had 16 individuals win a total of 30 titles. I'm missing the name of one 1x champ. Here's the list: LeRoy McGuirk: 1931 Allan Kelley: 1933, 1934 Wayne Martin: 1934, 1935, 1936 Stanley Henson: 1937, 1938, 1939 Harold Byrd: 1940 Vernon Logan: 1940, 1942 Buddy Arndt: 1941, 1942, 1946 Burl Jennings: 1941, 1942 Merle Jennings: 1941, 1942 Bill Maxwell: 1942 Phil Smith: 1951 George Layman: 1951, 1952 Hugh Peery: 1952, 1953, 1954 Fred Davis: 1955 Mickey Martin: 1962, 1963 The database created by Jay Hammond (a.k.a., "Boomer" - R.I.P.) used to be the best source for this kind of stuff. Most of the old links are now non-functional. Edited January 31 by lu_alum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 You are correct! The one you are missing is Dick Dickenson of Michigan State in 1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 New question - Name the 5 states, in order, that have produced the most AAs? * Note - I'm missing the states for almost 50 AAs, but it shouldn't affect the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 36 minutes ago, cowcards said: New question - Name the 5 states, in order, that have produced the most AAs? * Note - I'm missing the states for almost 50 AAs, but it shouldn't affect the order. The answer is Pennsylvania then everyone else 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Pennsylvania Iowa, Ohio, Oklahoma, California, Illinois, NJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: The answer is Pennsylvania then everyone else Numbers 2 & 3 added up doesn't equal PA! 22 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Pennsylvania Iowa, Ohio, Oklahoma, California, Illinois, NJ? You've got 4 states. Only 1 is in the right order though (hint- it's PA). But you have listed 7 of the top 8 who are all well above any one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, cowcards said: Numbers 2 & 3 added up doesn't equal PA! You've got 4 states. Only 1 is in the right order though (hint- it's PA). But you have listed 7 of the top 8 who are all well above any one else. NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, MPhillips said: NY? That would be the other. Now you've got to put them in order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 54 minutes ago, cowcards said: That would be the other. Now you've got to put them in order! guessing top 5 in order Pa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 11986 said: guessing top 5 in order Pa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, Illinois Assuming this is correct this was as of 2011. Maybe @Wrestleknownothing can fill in the gaps All-Americans Individual/Total Years 1961-2011 Pennsylvania 295 504 Iowa 186 350 Ohio 177 313 Oklahoma 134 271 Illinois 137 242 California 152 240 New Jersey 123 213 New York 133 211 I Individual AA's/Total 1928-1960 Oklahoma 160 260 Iowa 72 113 PA 73 98 Illinois 42 70 New York 21 29 New Jersey 19 29 Indiana 19 27 Michigan 15 25 Minnesota 16 23 Kansas 10 14 Ohio 12 13 Edited January 31 by PortaJohn 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 26 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Assuming this is correct this was as of 2011. Maybe @Wrestleknownothing can fill in the gaps All-Americans Individual/Total Years 1961-2011 Pennsylvania 295 504 Iowa 186 350 Ohio 177 313 Oklahoma 134 271 Illinois 137 242 California 152 240 New Jersey 123 213 New York 133 211 I Individual AA's/Total 1928-1960 Oklahoma 160 260 Iowa 72 113 PA 73 98 Illinois 42 70 New York 21 29 New Jersey 19 29 Indiana 19 27 Michigan 15 25 Minnesota 16 23 Kansas 10 14 Ohio 12 13 Sorry, I do not have any hometown, state, high school data on these guys. As far as I am concerned they do not exist prior to their freshman year. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 34 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Assuming this is correct this was as of 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, 11986 said: guessing top 5 in order Pa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, Illinois So close. Just need to switch Ohio and Iowa. PA, OK, IA, OH, IL. Iowa is inching closer to passing OK. Oh and IL were close but OH is starting to open a gap with the past 10 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, cowcards said: New question - Name the 5 states, in order, that have produced the most AAs? * Note - I'm missing the states for almost 50 AAs, but it shouldn't affect the order. Where they were born, where they started wrestling, where they started or finished high school or where they were in college when AA'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Whatever they listed on a roster for hometown. If that wasn't available then a yearbook, newspaper, etc. lists them. Not perfect but nothing will be. For example, Myles Martin lists nj instead of md where he went to hs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, cowcards said: Whatever they listed on a roster for hometown. If that wasn't available then a yearbook, newspaper, etc. lists them. Not perfect but nothing will be. For example, Myles Martin lists nj instead of md where he went to hs. Kudos to you for doing the heavy lifting. And finding that for every AA is HEAVY lifting. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 23 minutes ago, cowcards said: Whatever they listed on a roster for hometown. If that wasn't available then a yearbook, newspaper, etc. lists them. Not perfect but nothing will be. For example, Myles Martin lists nj instead of md where he went to hs. 19 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Kudos to you for doing the heavy lifting. And finding that for every AA is HEAVY lifting. I dont know if this forum has enough room for the two of you. Might have to wrestle a best of 3. Winner stays. @Ionel can officiate I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I dont know if this forum has enough room for the two of you. Might have to wrestle a best of 3. Winner stays. @Ionel can officiate #teamcowcards 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 37 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Kudos to you for doing the heavy lifting. And finding that for every AA is HEAVY lifting. There have been 24.2k NQs in D1. I've got the state of 22.5k, HS of 21.7k, and hometown of 14k. I haven't done a super deep dive on the others yet so I am sure I will be able to find quite a few of those too when I get to it. It's taken an extremely LOOOOOOOONG time. But worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, cowcards said: There have been 24.2k NQs in D1. I've got the state of 22.5k, HS of 21.7k, and hometown of 14k. I haven't done a super deep dive on the others yet so I am sure I will be able to find quite a few of those too when I get to it. It's taken an extremely LOOOOOOOONG time. But worth it. I laughed when you said you haven't done a super deep dive yet. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 55 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I laughed when you said you haven't done a super deep dive yet. Ha. I've just done easy google searches so far. No newspapers, student publications, etc. Lots of places to dig into to find these last ones. Hoping people will know quite a few of them when I finally post the database out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowcards Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 Question - True Freshman champs are rare, however, one year the same team had 2 of them. Name the year, team, and wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 28 minutes ago, cowcards said: Question - True Freshman champs are rare, however, one year the same team had 2 of them. Name the year, team, and wrestlers. Snyder and Myles Martin 2016 tOSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Hall and Joseph in '17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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