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[Disappointed_Badger_Fan]

I understand them disqualifying AJ but how can they give Glazier the win. The clock was at 0 and the score was 5-2 Ferrari. Again I understand the DQ, but why does the other guy get the win when the match was over. Also I don't blame AJ for swinging dude got up in his face for no reason. People are going to hate on AJ, but the reality is if Glazier would've gone back to the center nothing would've happened, but instead he finally wanted to be aggressive after he lost.

[lu_alum]

Bout isn’t over until ref raises the winner’s hand and they leave the mat.


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[gimpeltf]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:09 AM, Disappointed_Badger_Fan said:

I understand them disqualifying AJ but how can they give Glazier the win. The clock was at 0 and the score was 5-2 Ferrari. Again I understand the DQ, but why does the other guy get the win when the match was over. Also I don't blame AJ for swinging dude got up in his face for no reason. People are going to hate on AJ, but the reality is if Glazier would've gone back to the center nothing would've happened, but instead he finally wanted to be aggressive after he lost.

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They didn't shake hands yet so bout not over.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:09 AM, Disappointed_Badger_Fan said:

I understand them disqualifying AJ but how can they give Glazier the win. The clock was at 0 and the score was 5-2 Ferrari. Again I understand the DQ, but why does the other guy get the win when the match was over. Also I don't blame AJ for swinging dude got up in his face for no reason. People are going to hate on AJ, but the reality is if Glazier would've gone back to the center nothing would've happened, but instead he finally wanted to be aggressive after he lost.

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Are you blind? Did you not see the forceful shove AJ gave to Glazier right at match end? AJ's actions are indefensible

[BAC]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:09 AM, Disappointed_Badger_Fan said:

 Also I don't blame AJ for swinging dude got up in his face for no reason. 

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No reason?  Might want to rewatch the video.

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:09 AM, Disappointed_Badger_Fan said:

the reality is if *Ferrari* would've gone back to the center nothing would've happened, but instead he finally wanted to be aggressive after he *won*.

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FIFY

[ionel]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:22 AM, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Are you blind? Did you not see the forceful shove AJ gave to Glazier right at match end? AJ's actions are indefensible

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They must be, Brands wanted the lot.

[lu_alum]

Go to 12:30 in the finals video, which is linked in the bracket.

https://iasportsco.smoothcomp.com/en/event/14853/bracket/871602


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[gimpeltf]

AJ also was given a gift in SV- he backed out of bounds again. Should have been a point just like earlier. Would have been interesting to see the reaction after losing!

[lu_alum]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:28 AM, gimpeltf said:

AJ also was given a gift in SV- he backed out of bounds again. Should have been a point just like earlier. Would have been interesting to see the reaction after losing!

Agree. I also thought they gave him a pass on the backing out of bounds in SV.


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[Ivan Stankowski]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:09 AM, Disappointed_Badger_Fan said:

I understand them disqualifying AJ but how can they give Glazier the win. The clock was at 0 and the score was 5-2 Ferrari. Again I understand the DQ, but why does the other guy get the win when the match was over. Also I don't blame AJ for swinging dude got up in his face for no reason. People are going to hate on AJ, but the reality is if Glazier would've gone back to the center nothing would've happened, but instead he finally wanted to be aggressive after he lost.

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Dude did you watch the same match as the rest of us, AJ shoved his head in the mat and start the entire circus but some people will only see what they want to see. 

[gromit]

  On 12/31/2023 at 1:22 AM, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Are you blind? Did you not see the forceful shove AJ gave to Glazier right at match end? AJ's actions are indefensible

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I agree, but this is the sort of end-of-bout shenanigans we've come to expect from the Brands (especially Terry) when they wrestled and that same "show no respect" attitude has been passed on to their athletes over the years (Gilman, DeSanto as recent examples).  If you ask me, the Ferrari's fit right in.

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[boathead]

I'm bad with names and dates....maybe 15 years ago a kid won NY division 1....heaved his headgear skyward in celebration...and was promptly dq'd.

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[gimpeltf]

  On 12/31/2023 at 5:58 PM, boathead said:

I'm bad with names and dates....maybe 15 years ago a kid won NY division 1....heaved his headgear skyward in celebration...and was promptly dq'd.

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He wasn't dqed. He was hit for unsportsmanlike (I think 2 pts) to lose the match.

[boathead]

Props to your memory!

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[billyhoyle]

  On 12/31/2023 at 5:58 PM, boathead said:

I'm bad with names and dates....maybe 15 years ago a kid won NY division 1....heaved his headgear skyward in celebration...and was promptly dq'd.

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C.J. Rodriguez. I don’t think he was dqd but opponent was awarded a point. Took the case to court, but lost. 

[boathead]

  On 12/31/2023 at 6:26 PM, billyhoyle said:

C.J. Rodriguez. I don’t think he was dqd but opponent was awarded a point. Took the case to court, but lost. 

Yes! CJ Rodriguez. You guys are good.

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[billyhoyle]

  On 12/31/2023 at 6:27 PM, boathead said:

Yes! CJ Rodriguez. You guys are good.

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I knew the name was Rodriguez, so I googled it. I’m not that good. 

[Quaker118]

  On 12/31/2023 at 6:26 PM, billyhoyle said:

C.J. Rodriguez. I don’t think he was dqd but opponent was awarded a point. Took the case to court, but lost. 

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It was 2 points. He won by a point so the 2 cost him the match. Disgraceful by the ref. 

[gimpeltf]

  On 12/31/2023 at 7:24 PM, Quaker118 said:

It was 2 points. He won by a point so the 2 cost him the match. Disgraceful by the ref. 

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The refs didn't really have much to do with it. They were told by a state official they had to make that call.

[Schuteandscore]

I believe it was against Paul Florio, who ended up with the state title

[D3 for LU]

IMHO... the sport of wrestling would be better off w/o a Ferrari(s) on the mat.

D3