RegularStalling Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Flo did a lineup breakdown with Zeke and there are some interesting lineup notes - Sounds like Valencia/Negron was a wrestle off for 184. Valencia will go 174, Negron 184 No mention of Montalvo, sounds like It’s Meissner’s job at 197. Edited November 9, 2023 by RegularStalling 1
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, RegularStalling said: Flo did a lineup breakdown with Zeke and there are some interesting lineup notes - Sounds like Valencia/Negron was a wrestle off for 184. Valencia will go 174, Negron 184 No mention of Montalvo, sounds like It’s Meissner’s job at 197. Oh!? I know Negron is also trying to make Puerto Rico's Olympic team. Interesting that he isn't trying to go 74 KG (163lbs) when he looked TINY for 165 last year. Tall, yeah... but no meat. That said he was 79 KG for U23s before last year... also tiny btw. Maybe we see some sort of Shakur improvement up the weight. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11415358-high-standard-set-for-arizona-state-wrestling-sun-devil-insider "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Lunaticfringe Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Jacob Meissner was a very underrated wrestler in Minnesota. Won 2 titles as a 200 lb 220. His positioning was always so sound. He wrestled for a non traditional power team so his upside should be good
Idaho Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, RegularStalling said: Flo did a lineup breakdown with Zeke and there are some interesting lineup notes - Sounds like Valencia/Negron was a wrestle off for 184. Valencia will go 174, Negron 184 No mention of Montalvo, sounds like It’s Meissner’s job at 197. Thanks -- I tried to ask if Valencia was going up or down....but I was told very adamantly that the ASU wrestle offs 100% mean nothing and have no bearing on the starting lineup. By the way.... it's very unlikely. you see Montalvo. Edited November 9, 2023 by Idaho Sponsored by INTERMAT
nhs67 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Idaho said: Thanks -- I tried to ask if Valencia was going up or down....but I was told very adamantly that the ASU wrestle offs 100% mean nothing and have no bearing on the starting lineup. By the way.... it's very unlikely. you see Montalvo. What happened to Montalvo? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Bardamu911 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Idaho said: By the way.... it's very unlikely. you see Montalvo. why's this? He's on intermat's preseason rankings at #30 would be a bummer if he's no go.
RegularStalling Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Bardamu911 said: why's this? He's on intermat's preseason rankings at #30 would be a bummer if he's no go. He never really bounced back from that ACL injury. Total bummer, believe he was the #9 seed in ‘20
RegularStalling Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 Both Negron and Valencia are registered at 184 this weekend.
nhs67 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, RegularStalling said: Both Negron and Valencia are registered at 184 this weekend. Curious is Valencia weighs in at 178 or something. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
flyingcement Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Does Negron look a lot different physically? I can't imagine him at 184
MPhillips Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Curious is Valencia weighs in at 178 or something. Play it safe, talk with @Idaho... .
Idaho Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: Curious is Valencia weighs in at 178 or something. Trackwrestling has the pre-season cert weights at 197 for Negron and 285 for Valencia.- of course we know that could have meant 184.1 and 197.1 . I had assumed, like others, that Negron was going 174 and Valencia 184, but the recent article said Valencia 174 and Negron 184. With all of that being said, If I understand the descent plan correctly, if he is going to be in the lineup next weekend at 174 against Missouri, I think he has to weigh in at around 176.5 or something close. Same would be true of Negron. Some of the tournaments used to show the actual weigh in weights, not sure if this one does. 1 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
ionel Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, MPhillips said: Play it safe, talk with @Idaho... or maybe fly can also guarantee weigh-in numbers? Those western guys have skills. .
flyingcement Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Idaho said: Trackwrestling has the pre-season cert weights at 197 for Negron and 285 for Valencia.- of course we know that could have meant 184.1 and 197.1 . I had assumed, like others, that Negron was going 174 and Valencia 184, but the recent article said Valencia 174 and Negron 184. With all of that being said, If I understand the descent plan correctly, if he is going to be in the lineup next weekend at 174 against Missouri, I think he has to weigh in at around 176.5 or something close. Same would be true of Negron. Some of the tournaments used to show the actual weigh in weights, not sure if this one does. Good God- what were those boys eating this summer
MPhillips Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Good God- what were those boys eating this summer Fatties... 1 .
ionel Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Good God- what were those boys eating this summer Universities now feed all the athletes at no cost to the athlete. Wrestlers (less 285s) can't eat during the season, makes since they should get 2x free food off season. Edited November 10, 2023 by ionel 1 .
SunDevil Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 No Figs. No Chlebove. No Yas. No Ramos. No Larkin. At the journeyman it appears.
nhs67 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Idaho said: Trackwrestling has the pre-season cert weights at 197 for Negron and 285 for Valencia.- of course we know that could have meant 184.1 and 197.1 . I had assumed, like others, that Negron was going 174 and Valencia 184, but the recent article said Valencia 174 and Negron 184. With all of that being said, If I understand the descent plan correctly, if he is going to be in the lineup next weekend at 174 against Missouri, I think he has to weigh in at around 176.5 or something close. Same would be true of Negron. Some of the tournaments used to show the actual weigh in weights, not sure if this one does. I LOVED that B1Gs last year did. Edited November 10, 2023 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
RegularStalling Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, SunDevil said: No Figs. No Chlebove. No Yas. No Ramos. No Larkin. At the journeyman it appears. Pyles alluded to Figs not showing up. I assume he’s out for the duals tomorrow afternoon as well. Not too surprised with no Chlebove. Fresh off U23s and Dibert is a formidable backup
Bardamu911 Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 16 hours ago, SunDevil said: No Figs. No Chlebove. No Yas. No Ramos. No Larkin. At the journeyman it appears. it's a fitting tribute to college wrestling by starting off the season with us NOT getting Figs v Noto.
forkemaz Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 16 hours ago, SunDevil said: No Figs. No Chlebove. No Yas. No Ramos. No Larkin. At the journeyman it appears. Why?
SunDevil Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 So Ray Anderson is gone. Wonder if this shakes up the wrestling program, for the better. Bring a lot of donors back in.
ionel Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 7:38 AM, Bardamu911 said: NOT getting Figs ... @MPhillips's got some splain'n to do ... .
wjd Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Any news on what the injuries to Teamer and Vasquez were? Hopefully nothing similar to last year.
William Ward Moorehead, North Dakota Class of 2026 Committed to North Dakota State Projected Weight: 197, 285
Max Wirnsberger Warrior Run, Pennsylvania Class of 2026 Committed to California Baptist Projected Weight: 141
Mason Wagner Faith Christian Academy, Pennsylvania Class of 2026 Committed to Little Rock Projected Weight: 149
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