peanut Posted September 24, 2023 Posted September 24, 2023 Personally, I don't care about Greco at all, so I would prefer for there to be ten Olympic weights for men's freestyle, and eight for women's freestyle. (Once there are more women's freestylers, those numbers could be adjusted.)
WrestlingRasta Posted September 24, 2023 Posted September 24, 2023 Wow…here’s a topic no one has though to bring up. Yes. Greco should be an Olympic sport. The popularity and/or success in the US is not the requisite. To have the reaction to say that after the Greco tournament we just witnessed, says more about the viewer than the sport. 3
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 If anything Greco should also be a Women's option as well. ADD to it... don't take away. Also... curious question(s) would be... do we try to get Folkstyle in? Beach wrestling is picking up steam... let's get Folkstyle in? I would also be all for getting wrestling to be a Winter sport at the Olympics. Just saying... 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
RYou Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Beach wrestling is picking up steam LOL, why not mud wrestling, it's way ahead of beach wrestling?
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, nhs67 said: If anything Greco should also be a Women's option as well. ADD to it... don't take away. Also... curious question(s) would be... do we try to get Folkstyle in? Beach wrestling is picking up steam... let's get Folkstyle in? I would also be all for getting wrestling to be a Winter sport at the Olympics. Just saying... No snow or ice, which is kinda a prerequisite. Maybe a "snow wrestling" tournament?
RYou Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Greco is the original from the first Olympiad. Freestyle didn't emerge until the 19th century. 3
Gus Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: If anything Greco should also be a Women's option as well. ADD to it... don't take away. Also... curious question(s) would be... do we try to get Folkstyle in? Beach wrestling is picking up steam... let's get Folkstyle in? I would also be all for getting wrestling to be a Winter sport at the Olympics. Just saying... Let's focus on getting the olympics back to 10 weights. Folkstyle wrestling olympics happen every March in the USA at NCAA's. Not enough interest for it outside the USA.
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: No snow or ice, which is kinda a prerequisite. Maybe a "snow wrestling" tournament? When does wrestling take place, though? What actual season? Winter... at least in the Northern Hemisphere... which what... 95% of medalists are geographically located? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Gus said: Let's focus on getting the olympics back to 10 weights. Folkstyle wrestling olympics happen every March in the USA at NCAA's. Not enough interest for it outside the USA. I never said or meant to take anything from Freestyle or Greco currently. I meant if we can't add weights, which should be a focus as well as getting a Women's Greco going, then we should focus on getting other styles of wrestling in. I don't think beach wrestling is too far away, to be honest... with how some of these other sports are getting approved... "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: When does wrestling take place, though? What actual season? Winter... at least in the Northern Hemisphere... which what... 95% of medalists are geographically located? That's because it is cold outside, and the Winter Olympics embraces outdoor activities. Look at the list of sports. Basketball played inside too, also a summer Olympic sport.
Gus Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I never said or meant to take anything from Freestyle or Greco currently. I meant if we can't add weights, which should be a focus as well as getting a Women's Greco going, then we should focus on getting other styles of wrestling in. I don't think beach wrestling is too far away, to be honest... with how some of these other sports are getting approved... I would love to see Folkstyle wrestling in the Olympics, it's just not a style that is popular internationally. It would be like putting football in the olympics, USA would just crush.
ionel Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: I would love to see Folkstyle wrestling in the Olympics, it's just not a style that is popular internationally. It would be like putting football in the olympics, USA would just crush. Or like basketball or baseball or golf or tennis or soccer or ... .
Gus Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, ionel said: Or like basketball or baseball or golf or tennis or soccer or ... USA has traditionally crushed in basketball, though there has been some parity over the years. The other sports have international parity.
ionel Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: USA has traditionally crushed in basketball, though there has been some parity over the years. The other sports have international parity. and really no reason for any of them in the Olympic games. .
denger Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, ionel said: and really no reason for any of them in the Olympic games. I think basketball & baseball have a case that is greater than, golf, tennis or soccer. The latter three already have pinnacle-level international competition. I don't care about basketball or baseball, but apparently basketball has a healthy international presence, especially in Europe. Baseball might be able to make a similar case with popularity in Central America and East Asia. Of course, if it's an originalist argument, then the only Olympic sports would be derivative of combat....In which case, American Football would be more appropriate than any of the sport-balls.
WrestlingRasta Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: When does wrestling take place, though? What actual season? Winter... at least in the Northern Hemisphere... which what... 95% of medalists are geographically located? Pssst....there's wrestling around the world outside of the USA scholastic wrestling season. In some of those places.....it's a big sport, and they're pretty good. 1
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Pssst....there's wrestling around the world outside of the USA scholastic wrestling season. In some of those places.....it's a big sport, and they're pretty good. What does that have to do with much of anything? When are Worlds Typically? Are they during the summer? Is September summer now? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, nhs67 said: What does that have to do with much of anything? When are Worlds Typically? Are they during the summer? Is September summer now? Wasn't last Saturday first day of Fall so most of September is Summer? .
WrestlingRasta Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, nhs67 said: What does that have to do with much of anything? When are Worlds Typically? Are they during the summer? Is September summer now? Yes...it is. The Summer Olympics, which is held one month earlier in August, is also summer now. 1
peanut Posted September 25, 2023 Author Posted September 25, 2023 4 hours ago, RYou said: Greco is the original from the first Olympiad. Freestyle didn't emerge until the 19th century. Nope. Wrestling in the ancient Olympics allowed submissions. Greco was invented by a Napoleonic soldier.
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ionel said: Wasn't last Saturday first day of Fall so most of September is Summer? Fair. 34 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Yes...it is. The Summer Olympics, which is held one month earlier in August, is also summer now. Fine. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Fair. Fine. * we do all realize it is always winter in Michigan 1 .
OMW Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, nhs67 said: When does wrestling take place, though? What actual season? Winter... at least in the Northern Hemisphere... which what... 95% of medalists are geographically located? For the most-part, freestyle and Greco take place from March into July (end of high school folkstyle through Fargo). Summer Olympics reflect the correct period when that is the consideration for the Northern Hemisphere. 1
MJD Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 No, Greco-Roman has to go. We need to funnel the resources into freestyle. In the ideal world, it should stay. I personally like it, but funding two kinds of wrestling isn't feasible. We need more weights in freestyle
gimpeltf Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ionel said: * we do all realize it is always winter in Michigan 1
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