Idaho Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: I don't, no. Not unless he separates himself from his peers in the room. I think what I was hoping for last year comes to fruition, just with more competition in the room. Striggow seems healthy and Bullock has changed his name to Swollock. I think Bullock ends up being the starter. IF Walters separates himself from the room, including Swollock, then I think he only gets the nod if it is the difference in points between a 4/5/6th finish for UofM and a 3rd. Keep in mind they only give trophies out for 1-3 now, right? With the state of 197 right now, I just don't see him getting the nod. As hard as I am on Carroll (I would argue I am a realist, not a dreamer there) I know I need to be here, because 197 is deeper that 285 and it isn't even close. I could see Carroll getting 7/8th. Walters? Using wrestlestat, I just don't see him beating anyone in the Top 12ish... and there are many below there I don't see him beating (right now) either. I agree with that assessment.... He needs a year in the room to develop. Rogers at 184 is definitely his best weight. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 14 hours ago, nhs67 said: I can't help but notice you hate Michigan. 'splain yo'self. haha sorry bruv. I can only call it as I see it. I think 125 is undergoing a change of the guard right now and also omitted backside McKee from the rankings again as I have doubts about his ability to consistently make the weight and perform at a high level. There was one thing I was thinking about predicting which was adding Gomez in the top five for the Wolverines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gus said: I would consider Alirez vs Woods a toss-up match. Those two have shown to be a cut above the rest. Personally I think that last match was as close as Woods would be able to hope for against someone of Alirez caliber. I think Bartlett is likely to be on a trajectory to place himself above Woods for this coming year Edited August 16, 2023 by flyingcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, bnwtwg said: This post in particular had me in stitches lol. Excellent work Edited August 16, 2023 by flyingcement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I’ll just do PSU:125: Howard, 7-8th or R12.133: Nagao, 3rd141: Bartlett, 2nd149: SVN, 3rd157: Haines, 1st165: Messenbrink, 3rd174: Starocci, 1st184: Truax, 2nd197: Brooks, 1st285: Kerkvliet, 2ndSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: I’ll just do PSU: 125: Howard, 7-8th or R12. 133: Nagao, 3rd 141: Bartlett, 2nd 149: SVN, 3rd 157: Haines, 1st 165: Messenbrink, 3rd 174: Starocci, 1st 184: Truax, 2nd 197: Brooks, 1st 285: Kerkvliet, 2nd Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk obviously you're an iowa homer if you don't have Mesenbrink winning 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 obviously you're an iowa homer if you don't have Mesenbrink winning 1st I think he’s going to pistol whip whoever Iowa can throw out at 165, murder the B1G duals and tournament, and lose to whoever takes 2nd at B12s in the 2 vs 3 semi at NCAAs. Carr or O’Toole, just a bit too folk savvy.If he takes an OLY RS, I think he goes to Paris as Dake’s training partner, and begins his reign of terror in 2024-2025. Facundo slots in and takes 8th.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, Le duke said: I think he’s going to pistol whip whoever Iowa can throw out at 165, murder the B1G duals and tournament, and lose to whoever takes 2nd at B12s in the 2 vs 3 semi at NCAAs. Carr or O’Toole, just a bit too folk savvy. If he takes an OLY RS, I think he goes to Paris as Dake’s training partner, and begins his reign of terror in 2024-2025. Facundo slots in and takes 8th. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk can you at least agree that if he takes an olympic RS, he will never lose a college match? as ionel knows - I'm never wrong, only early haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 can you at least agree that if he takes an olympic RS, he will never lose a college match? as ionel knows - I'm never wrong, only early hahaNo, I won’t curse the kid. But I think he’s better than Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, Ruth and DT.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: No, I won’t curse the kid. But I think he’s better than Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, Ruth and DT. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I will accept the second sentence in terms of appreciation for what appears to be exceptional abilities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.White Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 8:29 PM, flyingcement said: 125 Richard Figueroa Matt Ramos Troy Spratley Eddie Ventresca Anthony Noto Eric Barnett Braxton Brown Marc-Anthony McGowan 133 Vito Arujau Daton Fix Nic Bouzakis Sam Latona Kai Orine Aaron Nagao Ryan Crookham Chris Cannon 141 Andrew Alirez Beau Bartlett Real Woods Lachlan McNeil Brock Hardy CJ Composto Josh Edmonds Cole Matthews 149 Ridge Lovett Shayne Van Ness Meyer Shapiro Kyle Parco Caleb Henson Casey Swiderski Brock Mauller Jackson Arrington 157 Sammy Sasso Levi Haines Jacori Teemer Peyton Robb Bryce Andonian Jared Franek Daniel Cardenas Cameron Steed 165 Mitchell Mesenbrink Mikey Caliendo Keegan O'Toole David Carr Cam Amine Dean Hamiti Julian Ramirez Matthew Olguin 174 Carter Starocci Chris Foca Mekhi Lewis Shane Griffith Carson Kharchla Travis Wittlake Cade DeVos Peyton Mocco 184 Parker Keckeisen Bernie Truax Trey Munoz Isaiah Salazar Jon Loew Will Feldkamp Lenny Pinto Brian Soldano 197 Aaron Brooks Jaxon Smith Silas Allred Stephen Buchanan Trent Hidlay Rocky Elam Michael Beard Tanner Sloan 285 Wyatt Hendrickson Greg Kerkvliet Tony Casioppi Lucas Davison Cohlton Schultz Dayton Pitzer Yonger Bastida Zach Elam Why did you not include A.J. Ferrari? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 8 hours ago, flyingcement said: can you at least agree that if he takes an olympic RS, he will never lose a college match? as ionel knows - I'm never wrong, only early haha Interesting thought but not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Le duke said: No, I won’t curse the kid. But I think he’s better than Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, Ruth and DT. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No way. Are you joking. I will watch him in the finals today. But this tournament is high school level with a good number of college freshman wrestlers. Please don't jinx him/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 11:13 PM, flyingcement said: As long as bud heavies are on discount, this is my default house drink. No hard liquor during the week unless I'm out of the house with others. Every man needs rules Someone say bud?? Seriously, putting Mess in right off the bat over two world and NCAA champs.....that's puttin your balls out there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Le duke said: I think he’s going to pistol whip whoever Iowa can throw out at 165, murder the B1G duals and tournament, and lose to whoever takes 2nd at B12s in the 2 vs 3 semi at NCAAs. Carr or O’Toole, just a bit too folk savvy. If he takes an OLY RS, I think he goes to Paris as Dake’s training partner, and begins his reign of terror in 2024-2025. Facundo slots in and takes 8th. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If O'Toole and Carr split and Mesenbrink goes undefeated, do you have them getting the nod? Particularly if Mesenbrink goes SLAYER on everyone like he has been doing at Worlds? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Carter Starocci is on Instagram saying he hasn't decided yet if he is returning this year to "edge his name in stone." https://www.instagram.com/p/CvyLJq8LlUv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link 1 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 No way. Are you joking. I will watch him in the finals today. But this tournament is high school level with a good number of college freshman wrestlers. Please don't jinx him/A lot of them are wrestling at the senior level already. I should clarify my statement: at the end of his NCAA career I think he’ll be regarded as better than the people I listed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If O'Toole and Carr split and Mesenbrink goes undefeated, do you have them getting the nod? Particularly if Mesenbrink goes SLAYER on everyone like he has been doing at Worlds?Someone has to win their conference title. That person will get the 1, Messenbrink the 2, loser of B12 final the 3.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: A lot of them are wrestling at the senior level already. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well then how would it do against Dake and the top senior level wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Well then how would it do against Dake and the top senior level wrestlers.See my revised/clarified statement above. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Le duke said: A lot of them are wrestling at the senior level already. I should clarify my statement: at the end of his NCAA career I think he’ll be regarded as better than the people I listed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Got it. Just don't jinx him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Got it. Just don't jinx him.Which is why I didn’t predict him to win NCAAs this year.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: Which is why I didn’t predict him to win NCAAs this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It will be exciting watching them go at it. Hopefully they can meet earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Le duke said: Which is why I didn’t predict him to win NCAAs this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who will you predict after Haines goes up to 165 and him and Haines both lose to Facundo in the wrestleoff? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Carter Starocci is on Instagram saying he hasn't decided yet if he is returning this year to "edge his name in stone." https://www.instagram.com/p/CvyLJq8LlUv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Did he mean etch? Etch his name? Not sure. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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