Science, AntiScience, and Censorship

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/race-change-to-another-trend-online-rcna93759

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44 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Here are meta-analyses of the literature. They disagree with your Twitter source.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1003187107


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from your own source

 We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.

Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus. 

so what is 97% of 32.6%? 

31.6

[ionel]

20 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/race-change-to-another-trend-online-rcna93759

https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/toco-the-human-border-collie-steps-out-for-first-ever-walk-in-public/amp/

[Le duke]

from your own source
 We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.
Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus. 
so what is 97% of 32.6%? 
31.6

You might want to reread what you just wrote.

What is 32.6 divided by 33.6?


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5 minutes ago, Le duke said:

 

You might want to reread what you just wrote.

What is 32.6 divided by 33.6?


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it says... of the 11K papers written... 60 some percent had NO position on AGW

32.6% said that Anthropogenic global warming  AGW

is the cause of our global warming.. in other words humans.

then it says.. of those expressing an opinion... in other words... the 32.6 % and .7% who rejected... so I was actually wrong...

i should have posted 97% of 33.3%  b/c i didn't count the .7% who are against AGW did actually have a position on the subject.

 

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12 minutes ago, ionel said:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/toco-the-human-border-collie-steps-out-for-first-ever-walk-in-public/amp/

 

[DJT]

8 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

It's like now that immigrants get visas and can become police officers (after they went through training and passed all the necessary requirements.)

It's... well, not sure how to describe it other than it sounds legitimate to me.

If you remember, the stereotypical Irish policeman from old school movies was based on the fact that many Irish immigrants did, in fact, become police officers. They were immigrants and were in a position to take whatever jobs they could get. Being a police officer, at the time, was one of the less desirable jobs available. So, a perfect fit.

Doesn't sound all that much different than today.

 

Federal law requires all law enforcement officers and sheriffs to be citizens. (Not on visa, not green card holders, but citizens, natural or via passing citizenship test). California, Colorado and now Illinois have laws circumventing that requirement.

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8 minutes ago, DJT said:

Federal law requires all law enforcement officers and sheriffs to be citizens. (Not on visa, not green card holders, but citizens, natural or via passing citizenship test). California, Colorado and now Illinois have laws circumventing that requirement.

in fairness, they are probably grasping at straws... who would want to be a cop in those places... with repeat criminals returned without charges so often...

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https://gazette.com/premium/denver-recreational-marijuana-data-sheds-light-on-revenues-versus-cost-of-industry-what-could-be/article_a941c6b2-3b53-11ed-85c7-dbda0e2e33ea.html#:~:text=A 2017 analysis released by,as traffic stops among others.

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13 hours ago, Theo Brixton said:

I can't believe we are almost on page 3 of this thread and no one mentioned covid origins. Literally the most retarded attempt by the establishment to say "the science is settled" during the whole covid debacle.

When you mix science with politics you get politics. This is readily apparent in all things covid-related and no doubt many other fields with political implications. "Follow the science" always meant "don't question the establishment narrative". And as we've found with covid, the "experts" got just about every single thing wrong that they tried to censor which, of course, is why they tried to censor it in the first place.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Theo Brixton said:

I can't believe we are almost on page 3 of this thread and no one mentioned covid origins. Literally the most ***I am an idiot and can't use a better adjective***ed attempt by the establishment to say "the science is settled" during the whole covid debacle.

When you mix science with politics you get politics. This is readily apparent in all things covid-related and no doubt many other fields with political implications. "Follow the science" always meant "don't question the establishment narrative". And as we've found with covid, the "experts" got just about every single thing wrong that they tried to censor which, of course, is why they tried to censor it in the first place.

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ejhf.2978

[Le duke]

Federal law requires all law enforcement officers and sheriffs to be citizens. (Not on visa, not green card holders, but citizens, natural or via passing citizenship test). California, Colorado and now Illinois have laws circumventing that requirement.

Please cite any US law that states that. I’ll wait.


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wrong citation

Edited July 30, 2023 by Scouts Honor
was for federal law EO

[Le duke]

https://golawenforcement.com/articles/us-citizenship-required-to-be-a-police-officer/#:~:text=Employment with a Federal Law,US Citizen or US National.

Buddy, you realize that there’s a difference between federal law enforcement and state law enforcement, right?

That only covers federal agencies, such as the FBI, DEA, DHS, etc. The FBI is not your local PD.


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yeah, i saw that too late.

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40 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Buddy, you realize that there’s a difference between federal law enforcement and state law enforcement, right?

That only covers federal agencies, such as the FBI, DEA, DHS, etc. The FBI is not your local PD.


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You’re citing one blog… which only says that it is up to the individual agencies in certain states. There are a dozen articles in a quick search that refer to it being federal law for all police officers and sheriffs to be citizens, so who is wrong? I don’t know, and I’m not going to dig through statutes. Either way, IL isn’t even requiring the applicant to be a permanent resident (green card holder), like most of the other states allowing non-citizens to apply.

https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/bill-to-allow-noncitizens-to-become-illinois-police-officers-heads-to-governors-desk/amp/

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/illinois-legislation-would-allow-non-u-s-citizens-to-become-police-officers/
 

 

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2 hours ago, ionel said:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/toco-the-human-border-collie-steps-out-for-first-ever-walk-in-public/amp/

I was going to post that last night on the nutty ‘murica (though not America) thread but fell asleep!

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9 minutes ago, DJT said:

I was going to post that last night on the nutty ‘murica (though not America) thread but fell asleep!

sure ... you were taking a dog nap ... its ok, just admin it ... nothing wrong with that

[Le duke]

You’re citing one blog… which only says that it is up to the individual agencies in certain states. There are a dozen articles in a quick search that refer to it being federal law for all police officers and sheriffs to be citizens, so who is wrong? I don’t know, and I’m not going to dig through statutes. Either way, IL isn’t even requiring the applicant to be a permanent resident (green card holder), like most of the other states allowing non-citizens to apply.[/url]
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I didn’t cite any blogs. That was the person I quoted.

I asked to be provided a federal statute. No one has provided one yet.

[Le duke]

Not sure what happened there.

I tried to say something along the lines of:

I didn’t quote any blogs or cite any sources. A person that I quoted above? Yes.

I asked people to cite federal law relating to requirements for local PD to be US citizens. No one has done that yet.


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[DJT]

14 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Not sure what happened there.

I tried to say something along the lines of:

I didn’t quote any blogs or cite any sources. A person that I quoted above? Yes.

I asked people to cite federal law relating to requirements for local PD to be US citizens. No one has done that yet.


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Like I said, I was quoting several news articles, and I’m not going to dig through federal statutes to see where that’s coming from, if from anywhere at all… maybe that’s my fault for trusting any news… we should all know better by now. 

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7 hours ago, DJT said:

Federal law requires all law enforcement officers and sheriffs to be citizens. (Not on visa, not green card holders, but citizens, natural or via passing citizenship test). California, Colorado and now Illinois have laws circumventing that requirement.

i do find this interesting

This means that if you have DACA (or are completely undocumented), it's illegal for you to buy or own guns or even go to a gun range and fire weapons (“possession” can mean just having something in your hands).Apr 19, 2023

[ionel]

Speaking of censorship, I challenge any & all to post forthwith and herein a story about your favorite w r a s s l e r.  You must use the term at least once (you will recieve more points with multiple) in your story.

[Plasmodium]

Is someone asserting people shouldn't be police officers or other law enforcement unless they are a US citizen?