Will the judge in the Hunter Biden case shoot down his plea deal.

[Paul158]

Its taking a long time if it is just a simple plea deal.

[Plasmodium]

He is dragging his heels because he has to agree to a abstention from drugs or alcohol plus testing.  

[Paul158]

7 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

He is dragging his heels because he has to agree to a abstention from drugs or alcohol plus testing.  

Judge is accusing Hunters lawyers of misrepresentation, also accused of trying to remove briefing material. 

[Offthemat]

[Plasmodium]

Not guilty.  I kid, just a plea.  Judge doesn't like the plea deal and rejects it.  The Big Guy is now sizing her up for cement shoes.

[Paul158]

Wow . Had the judge allowed this go through Hunter would have had immunity from any other illegal activities he might be involved in the past. This really looks like the 2 sides are colluding with one another .The deal they agreed on would have been the deal of century.

Edited July 26, 2023 by Paul158
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[Paul158]

2 hours ago, Plasmodium said:

Not guilty.  I kid, just a plea.  Judge doesn't like the plea deal and rejects it.  The Big Guy is now sizing her up for cement shoes.

Hunter pleaded not guilty.

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

Hunter pleaded not guilty.

I feel better cause was pretty sure he was lying when entered plea of tax evasion and gun charges.  

[Bigbrog]

This just seems so shady and weird...does this happen a lot where the judge rejects the plea deal?  

[Offthemat]

44 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

This just seems so shady and weird...does this happen a lot where the judge rejects the plea deal?  

You weren’t watching the Gen. Flynn trial?

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Bigbrog said:

This just seems so shady and weird...does this happen a lot where the judge rejects the plea deal?  

Report was the judge thought the plea deal might be unconstitutional given told he is still under investigation for other issues.  Guessing a good judge doesn't want something that could be unconstitutional going across her desk/bench.

[DJT]

It’s a MAGA judge. What else would you expect?

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, DJT said:

It’s a MAGA judge. What else would you expect?

Not likely.  She’s donated mostly to democrats but she did donate to McCain, who was no friend of Trump’s.  She was first nominated by the two Delaware democrat senators to Trump before he nominated her to the bench.  You can safely say she’s a democrat, just not a member of the coverup crew.  She may have a dismal view of the unlawful and obscene behavior being overlooked in this case. 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, DJT said:

It’s a MAGA judge. What else would you expect?

Everyone knows the only MAGAs are old grey haired white men.  

[DJT]

1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

Not likely.  She’s donated mostly to democrats but she did donate to McCain, who was no friend of Trump’s.  She was first nominated by the two Delaware democrat senators to Trump before he nominated her to the bench.  You can safely say she’s a democrat, just not a member of the coverup crew.  She may have a dismal view of the unlawful and obscene behavior being overlooked in this case. 

C’mon, every article that I’ve read on CNN and MSNBC made it very clear that she is a Trump-appointee. Why would they go out of their way to let the reader know that, if it wasn’t the reason why she rejected the plea deal? Clearly there is no other explanation.

[Offthemat]

8 minutes ago, DJT said:

C’mon, every article that I’ve read on CNN and MSNBC made it very clear that she is a Trump-appointee. Why would they go out of their way to let the reader know that, if it wasn’t the reason why she rejected the plea deal? Clearly there is no other explanation.

Oh yeah, clearly. 

[DJT]

27 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Oh yeah, clearly. 

The funny thing is, when this plea agreement was first struck, Hunter’s lawyers (along with corporate media and all of the DNC pundits) came out saying this brings the years-long investigation into Hunter to a conclusion, and it was a whole lot of nothingburger. The prosecutor (with the persistent urging of the judge) made it abundantly clear that is not true. 

What it looks like is Hunter’s lawyers (and prosecutors?) were trying to pull a fast one, and the judge caught them in it. Their defense against any prosecution moving forward (or reason to halt any further investigation) was going to be double-jeopardy, saying the plea agreement covered all past crimes, thus he’s been punished.

Typically, one enters their guilty plea, then the judge accepts or rejects the plea agreement, in full or part, and imposes a sentence and/or conditions in addition to the plea agreement, if the judge so chooses. She didn’t allow the plea agreement forthwith because she believes he is facing a longer sentence for other crimes than she could statutorily impose for the three counts presently against him (~12 years).
 

I’m actually starting to think, when they iron out the plea agreement (limit its scope), the judge is going to impose some form of punishment, even if just a term of house arrest/ electronic monitoring. She is showing some gall by making him actively seek employment and submit to random drug tests while on bond.

This shall be interesting… or a whole lot of hoopla for nothing.

Edited July 27, 2023 by DJT

[headshuck]

Looks like it might take more than a beach house to fix this one up.

[Offthemat]

44 minutes ago, DJT said:

The funny thing is, when this plea agreement was first struck, Hunter’s lawyers (along with corporate media and all of the DNC pundits) came out saying this brings the years-long investigation into Hunter to a conclusion, and it was a whole lot of nothingburger. The prosecutor (with the persistent urging of the judge) made it abundantly clear that is not true. 

What it looks like is Hunter’s lawyers (and prosecutors?) were trying to pull a fast one, and the judge caught them in it. Their defense against any prosecution moving forward (or reason to halt any further investigation) was going to be double-jeopardy, saying the plea agreement covered all past crimes, thus he’s been punished.

Typically, one enters their guilty plea, then the judge accepts or rejects the plea agreement, in full or part, and imposes a sentence and/or conditions in addition to the plea agreement, if the judge so chooses. She didn’t allow the plea agreement forthwith because she believes he is facing a longer sentence for other crimes than she could statutorily impose for the three counts presently against him (~12 years).
 

I’m actually starting to think, when they iron out the plea agreement (limit its scope), the judge is going to impose some form of punishment, even if just a term of house arrest/ electronic monitoring. She is showing some gall by making him actively seek employment and submit to random drug tests while on bond.

This shall be interesting… or a whole lot of hoopla for nothing.

Oh I think they’ll find him a nice sinecure somewhere.  Maybe the Penn-Biden Chinese Spy Center needs someone to file classified documents or something.  

[DJT]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

Oh I think they’ll find him a nice sinecure somewhere.  Maybe the Penn-Biden Chinese Spy Center needs someone to file classified documents or something.  

Sounds like Joe needs a dog walker.

Let’s see… coke found in the White House… Joe’s German shepherd bites 10 secret service agents… secret service says they can’t figure out who’s coke it is… the picture is coming together now.

[Offthemat]

4 minutes ago, DJT said:

Sounds like Joe needs a dog walker.

Let’s see… coke found in the White House… Joe’s German shepherd bites 10 secret service agents… secret service says they can’t figure out who’s coke it is… the picture is coming together now.

I worry this employment thing will infringe on his spirograph art production. 

[DJT]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

I worry this employment thing will infringe on his spirograph art production. 

Don’t be envious. If your dad was President who needed to launder money, and you had a crack habit to fuel, you’d do the same thing.

[Offthemat]

1 minute ago, DJT said:

Don’t be envious. If your dad was President who needed to launder money, and you had a crack habit to fuel, you’d do the same thing.

I might start a band.  Can you play drums?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

46 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I worry this employment thing will infringe on his spirograph art production. 

Nah, selling 'Art' was the old school way... no self-respecting criminal does that anymore.

It's selling NFT's via crypto currency now. Transaction anonymity and sudden value fluctuations of NFT's are where current criminals are at.

[WrestlingRasta]

Ugh. All this means is we’re going to have more Hunter in the news cycle. More Hunter on the House and Senate floors.  When do these folks get tired of Hunter. Even Parnas is saying they should just move on (of course they may be for his own best interest, but still).