flyingcement Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Formally140 said: Assad is in trouble? Sounds like it is speculation from the Iowa board about who may be in trouble with the gambling scandal. As told to me earlier, I don't believe this is verified - so just speculation at this point 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, BlacknGold said: Wrestlestat bases that off returning points only, meaning someone like Drake Ayala counts for 0 points. It's a lame assessment. Michigan has a good roster but probably a better dual team than tournament It’s not based off of their “ratings”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Sounds like it is speculation from the Iowa board about who may be in trouble with the gambling scandal. As told to me earlier, I don't believe this is verified - so just speculation at this point Think Assad has Olympic redshirt for cadets still. Nonetheless, he never AA and is a senior so it's not like he has some death grip ownership of the weight class. He's a good wrestler but is owed nothing other than an opportunity and a scholarship 6 minutes ago, 1032004 said: It’s not based off of their “ratings”? I think the ranking you're talking about is the one just based on returning tournament points. So Iowa would get 0 at 125 and 197 when obviously they will probably score points at those weight classes. Sort of a funky ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 hours ago, BlacknGold said: I think the ranking you're talking about is the one just based on returning tournament points. So Iowa would get 0 at 125 and 197 when obviously they will probably score points at those weight classes. Sort of a funky ranking That isn't how wrestlestat works at all. If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated. It even gives you a breakdown. Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv Points Bonus Points Total 125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2 133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3 141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17 149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5 157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32 165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4 174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9 184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3 197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0 285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52 Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 hours ago, flyingcement said: Sounds like it is speculation from the Iowa board about who may be in trouble with the gambling scandal. As told to me earlier, I don't believe this is verified - so just speculation at this point Yeah. This is what I saw, I guess referring to a different sport’s forum on HR: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/hwc-wrestlers-competed-at-matteo-pellicone.420626/#post-11257476 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 15 hours ago, flyingcement said: Caliendo is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Problem is that 165 is the hardest class. He's one of a handful of people that has beat Shane Griffith and did so as a redshirt freshman out of a mid major program and earned All American. However this all shakes out, I would prioritize the correct placement of Caliendo above all else. I agree. I watched him in highschool, and he beat some really good kids. I don't know how his recruiting went, but i don't think there was a ton of folks on him were there? He is a tough dude fo sho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkguy Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 hours ago, 1032004 said: I think they’re a pretty solid 3rd after adding Caliendo and Franek, but I’d still take Michigan over them for 2nd. If they add AJ they probably pass Michigan. And still likely only win a match or 2 against PSU… They blow michigan out in the duel without aj Ayala = > deaugustino Teske < ragusin Woods > Cannon Whoever iowa throws out > mayora Franek > lewan Kennedy = < amine Brands < griffith Assad > rogers Whoever > yatooma Cass > davison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, nhs67 said: That isn't how wrestlestat works at all. If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated. It even gives you a breakdown. Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv Points Bonus Points Total 125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2 133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3 141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17 149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5 157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32 165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4 174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9 184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3 197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0 285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52 Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9 What I'm saying is they don't use projections for next season. Which would be a more accurate. Someone like Meyer Shapiro counts for 0? Ayala will score 2 points in next years tournament? Spare me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, BlacknGold said: Ayala will score 2 points in next years tournament? Spare me Jaydin Eierman didn't even score 2 points at NCAAs in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, BlacknGold said: What I'm saying is they don't use projections for next season. Which would be a more accurate. Someone like Meyer Shapiro counts for 0? Ayala will score 2 points in next years tournament? Spare me Or you could admit you didn't know how it actually worked. Your Shapiro case is accurate, but absolutely not what you meant. Also, Ayala might score zero. I think he is a contender, but he has to take the mat and not get injured. Ratings are based off results, which Ayala has. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, nhs67 said: That isn't how wrestlestat works at all. If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated. It even gives you a breakdown. Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv Points Bonus Points Total 125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2 133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3 141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17 149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5 157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32 165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4 174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9 184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3 197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0 285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52 Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9 Where do you find the projected place and bonus points? I just see the 65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Where do you find the projected place and bonus points? I just see the 65 Rotate your phone to landscape. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Rotate your phone to landscape. Ha! Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkguy Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, fishbane said: Jaydin Eierman didn't even score 2 points at NCAAs in 2022. I wonder why? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 hours ago, hawkguy said: They blow michigan out in the duel without aj Ayala = > deaugustino Teske < ragusin Woods > Cannon Whoever iowa throws out > mayora Franek > lewan Kennedy = < amine Brands < griffith Assad > rogers Whoever > yatooma Cass > davison OK after looking closer at the math I think you’re right that Iowa is likely above Michigan now, although they probably match up a little better with them in a dual than the tourney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Rotate your phone to landscape. ? like this ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: Rotate your phone to landscape. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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