Is Vito a sleeper at 133?

[BaldAt23]

I don't see much chatter but I think he is a real threat to RBY and Fix. Will he be underdog? Sure. Would I be surprised if he beat either of them? Nope. 

[CementMixer]

18 minutes ago, BaldAt23 said:

I don't see much chatter but I think he is a real threat to RBY and Fix. Will he be underdog? Sure. Would I be surprised if he beat either of them? Nope. 

He will have to beat Fix first in order to even get to RBY.

[Le duke]

He will have to beat Fix first in order to even get to RBY.

He might be the 4 seed, in which case he’d see RBY first, before any potential Fix match.


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[PortaJohn]

Arujau is definitely not a sleeper.  133 along with many other weight classes just don't get discussed much on this board.  The board spends more time talking about if Spencer Lee could beat Cael Sanderson when in their primes or is so & so a "meanie".    

[PortaJohn]

7 minutes ago, Le duke said:

He might be the 4 seed, in which case he’d see RBY first, before any potential Fix match.


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Don't see how he'd be the 4 seed unless he loses at the EIWA tournament.  He's a shoo-in for the 3 seed.

Edited February 26, 2023 by PortaJohn

[SunDevil]

Is a 3 seed really a sleeper? 

[BigRedFan]

7 minutes ago, SunDevil said:

Is a 3 seed really a sleeper? 

When the #1 seed is a 2x returning NCAA champion, and the #2 seed is a 3x NCAA runner-up, and all anyone is talking about for 133 (other than Tesskkeeiy) is whether RBY will hand Fix his fourth runner-up finish?  Yeah, that'd be a sleeper.

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in folk or freestyle?  Definitely not in folkstyle.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

When the #1 seed is a 2x returning NCAA champion, and the #2 seed is a 3x NCAA runner-up, and all anyone is talking about for 133 (other than Tesskkeeiy) is whether RBY will hand Fix his fourth runner-up finish?  Yeah, that'd be a sleeper.

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in folk or freestyle?  Definitely not in folkstyle.

When did Vito beat Fix & RBY in folk?

[BigRedFan]

Just now, ionel said:

When did Vito beat Fix & RBY in folk?

You tell me.  I didn't claim he did.

[Le duke]

Snip:

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in folk?

Vito is not on that list.


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[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

You tell me.  I didn't claim he did.

Just a heads up you might get a few responses.  The wording in your post came out a little confusing.  I had to reread it to get your point

[BigRedFan]

10 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Just a heads up you might get a few responses.  The wording in your post came out a little confusing.  I had to reread it to get your point

Is the word "or" not clear?

[ionel]

14 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

You tell me.  I didn't claim he did.

You said "other than Vito" as if he had done it.

Otherwise one would just say "has anyone beaten ..."

[BigRedFan]

Just now, ionel said:

You said "other than Vito" as if he had done it.

Otherwise one would just say "has anyone beaten ..."

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in either (folk or freestyle)?  Vito beat both RBY and Fix in one of (folk or freestyle).

You are really overthinking this.

[Threadkilla]

6 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in either (folk or freestyle)?  Vito beat both RBY and Fix in one of (folk or freestyle).

You are really overthinking this.

I think you underthought it.  

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in either (folk or freestyle)?  Vito beat both RBY and Fix in one of (folk or freestyle).

You are really overthinking this.

Well then, I gotta ask.

Has anyone other than Kyle Burwick beaten both Spencer Lee and Gable Steveson in folk or freestyle?

[BigRedFan]

Just now, Threadkilla said:

I think you underthought it.  

FFS.  Draw a circle.  Write in the circle the name of everyone who has beaten RBY in a folkstyle or freestyle match.  Draw another circle.  Write in the name of everyone who has beaten Fix in a folkstyle or freestyle match.  Are there any names in both circles?  Vito's name is in both circles.  Anyone else?

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

FFS.  Draw a circle.  Write in the circle the name of everyone who has beaten RBY in a folkstyle or freestyle match.  Draw another circle.  Write in the name of everyone who has beaten Fix in a folkstyle or freestyle match.  Are there any names in both circles?  Vito's name is in both circles.  Anyone else?

Maybe back in 3rd or 5th grade but if so the name escapes me.

[Plasmodium]

He is not a sleeper.  I'd love to see Fix as a 4xer, so if he is gonna win it he needs a 4 seed.

[Threadkilla]

15 minutes ago, ionel said:

Maybe back in 3rd or 5th grade but if so the name escapes me.

I looked it up.  Vito beat RBY in HS.     

 

[PortaJohn]

36 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Is the word "or" not clear?

I only came in peace & wasn't trying to debate.  It was just a heads up 

Edited February 26, 2023 by PortaJohn

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

I looked it up.  Vito beat RBY in HS.     

 

But wasn't Fix undefeated is hs so ... 

[SunDevil]

1 hour ago, BigRedFan said:

When the #1 seed is a 2x returning NCAA champion, and the #2 seed is a 3x NCAA runner-up, and all anyone is talking about for 133 (other than Tesskkeeiy) is whether RBY will hand Fix his fourth runner-up finish?  Yeah, that'd be a sleeper.

Has anyone other than Vito beaten both RBY and Fix in folk or freestyle?  Definitely not in folkstyle.

Sleeper nah. A surprise if he wins it all, maybe. Think you are misusing using the term for the dramatics. 

Edited February 26, 2023 by SunDevil

[Threadkilla]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

But wasn't Fix undefeated is hs so ... 

Vito beat RBY in freestyle.  RBY was undefeated in HS.  So Vito must have beaten fix in Folk. 

[PencilNeck]

Is 133 the toughest P4P weight class (at the AA level, anyway) this year?