Elevator Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Imagine, hypothetically, that NCAA athletes had to be residents of the state in which a college is located. In other words, Penn State could only use Pennsylvania wrestlers, Iowa could only use Iowa wrestlers, Ohio State could only use Ohio wrestlers, etc. How would this change the current landscape of best D1 wrestling programs, if at all? I imagine Penn State and Ohio State would still be the top 2. But how about colleges like Illinois or Rutgers? Maybe Cornell would not be nearly as good and Iowa and Oklahoma State would also drop significantly. Hypothetically: Harvard would be crushed and drop the sport as a varsity team. This would trigger a loss of Ivy league status to the sport (Dartmouth, Yale, and Harvard all out), and soon all Ivies would demote to club status. Without Ivies, EIWA would crumble. Army, Navy, Lehigh and Patriot league teams (like Lafayette from long ago) would move to club status. Despite NWCA's best efforts, after EIWA crumbles, other conferences call its quits and NCAA drops the NCAA championship in wrestling. All NCAA teams go to club. High school wrestling withers and dies and the sport becomes private clubs practicing freestyle only. Folkstyle is just a memory for old-timers on message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 The worst thing about DDM is @Jimmy Cinnabon asking dumb offseason questions like this... and us responding. (insert @ionel's shrug emoticon here) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 What if there had never been a Constitutional Convention, the Articles of Confederation were still in force, and there was no such thing as interstate commerce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, dragit said: What if there had never been a Constitutional Convention, the Articles of Confederation were still in force, and there was no such thing as interstate commerce? Then all pastries would be baked, sold and consumed locally and we'd never have to endure this nonsense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited February 9, 2023 by ionel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 hours ago, dragit said: What if there had never been a Constitutional Convention, the Articles of Confederation were still in force, and there was no such thing as interstate commerce? What if there were no hypotheticals? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 22 hours ago, FearTheTurtle said: How about Kyle Snyder? Moved from Maryland to Colorado and skipped his senior year? Did he kick in the two year window a year early? Correct. He sacrificed eligibility, so he gets to pick his own state. Interesting background story - this was actually ducking. There was a kid from Cripple Creek that owned him in the room and he didn't want a humiliating runner up finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Elevator said: What if there were no hypotheticals? Wait ... what? do you mean hypothetically? Edited February 9, 2023 by ionel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twooooo Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I think the bigger picture with this rule would affect wrestling in a much deeper way than what is being talked about. If hypothetically NCCA ATHLETES (not just wrestlers) had to stay in their home states, we would see a lot of wrestling programs go away. Not because they couldn’t field enough wrestlers BUT they simply could not afford it. Take a school like Iowa State, their football program, wrestling program and most other programs would go away simply because Iowa is a Hawkeye state, always has been. The majority of high profiled Iowa high school athletes go Iowa and this would leave schools like Iowa State and UNI without football programs and without football programs other programs such as wrestling and rowing simply cannot sustain. So if this hypothetical rule actually did happen, it would kill D1 wrestling as we know it, among many other D1 sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I'm surprised no one has brought up Yokiro Uetake or though few other international student athletes. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Twooooo said: I think the bigger picture with this rule would affect wrestling in a much deeper way than what is being talked about. If hypothetically NCCA ATHLETES (not just wrestlers) had to stay in their home states, we would see a lot of wrestling programs go away. Not because they couldn’t field enough wrestlers BUT they simply could not afford it. Take a school like Iowa State, their football program, wrestling program and most other programs would go away simply because Iowa is a Hawkeye state, always has been. The majority of high profiled Iowa high school athletes go Iowa and this would leave schools like Iowa State and UNI without football programs and without football programs other programs such as wrestling and rowing simply cannot sustain. So if this hypothetical rule actually did happen, it would kill D1 wrestling as we know it, among many other D1 sports. True. For example, Nebraska could not field a competitive FB team to finance their athletic department. TX on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 7:24 AM, LJB said: what if C-A-T really spelled DOG???????? Nerds!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Nerds!!! NERDS!!! NERDS!!! NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Who would have had to claim AJ Ferrari? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, LJB said: NERDS!!! NERDS!!! NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fireball! Fireball! Fireball! Uh-oh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Fireball! Fireball! Fireball! Uh-oh.... but, that's my pie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 2:15 PM, ionel said: yeah I was also a slow reader before took the Evelyn Wood speed reading course while in grad school. I started that course in 1978. I'm almost halfway through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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