ESPN RAF Moscow article: Experts: RAF card in Moscow likely violates U.S. sanctions

[1032004]

3 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

yes, it's lack of self awareness....if you're a total moron.

the situations aren't remotely similar.

just stfu and say you hate RAF and you hate me. then you wouldn't say so many stupid things and stretch so far in stupidy consipiracy theories.

 

They’re very similar.  Despite your reaction to Flo being far more critical than your reaction to RAF, it’s indisputable that the RAF situation was far worse.  You complain about minor technical difficulties for Flo, when most Americans couldn’t even watch RAF Moscow at all, yet you couldn’t stop talking about how amazing it was.

I don’t hate you or RAF.  I want RAF to succeed and so far it has been (although I do question how they were able to pay so much talent early on without something shady).   I don’t want them to do things that will shoot themselves in the foot with customers, and RAF Moscow absolutely was one of those things.

 

[Husker_Du]

lol.

the RAF was due to international wartime sanctions. it was not possible.

flo's was due to not being able to get audio up.

these things are not the same.

[Husker_Du]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Lol, you only regretfully acknowledged that “OK I’ll agree that RAF should have put out a statement” after Basch destroyed you.  You also said after that that “you’d do it all over again.”'

lol. this is not true and Basch will tell you that. it wasn't begrudgingly. i said it often. so now you're just lying.

and yes lol. i would 100% have that moscow card even if i knew it couldn't be streamed. it was awesome. im sorry it wasn't streamed. but you have to be a moron to think we should have canceled it. 

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Meanwhile on this one you said about not announcing Kennedy wasn’t wrestling “what are you doing?!?!!”

this was as much on USAW as it was on Flo. literally what was the reason behind it? we still don't know what the point was.

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Plus when you said that you seemed to think that was USA Wrestling’s decision, but then included that as the second item you listed as Flo having a “bad weekend.”  So was it Flo’s decision or USA wrestling?  Not to mention the first item you listed as a reason for Flo’s “bad weekend” was no commentary,

Not announcing Kennedy, no commentary, Trackwrestling announcement (which was a PR nightmare), WNO kids missing weight, 5 people in the stands...

if that wasn't a bad weekend idk what to tell you.

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

when the few Americans that did get to watch RAF Moscow had 90% of it in Russian/with gifs of Leonardo DiCaprio covering half of the screen.

Please don’t suggest your reaction to the two very similar things happening was similar in your reactions.

they weren't remotely close to similar despite you really wanting them to be. 

for the umpteenth time, one was do to international law and i'm not RAF's PR department.

you're very clearly biased. the alternative is you're dumb and trying too hard.

[LJB]

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, LJB said:

Yeah, @Husker_Du was doing a lot of complaining about Flo on his recent show

[MPhillips]

Nerds.

[Husker_Du]

58 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yeah, @Husker_Du was doing a lot of complaining about Flo on his recent show

sorry it hurt you

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

lol. this is not true and Basch will tell you that. it wasn't begrudgingly. i said it often. so now you're just lying.

and yes lol. i would 100% have that moscow card even if i knew it couldn't be streamed. it was awesome. im sorry it wasn't streamed. but you have to be a moron to think we should have canceled it. 

this was as much on USAW as it was on Flo. literally what was the reason behind it? we still don't know what the point was.

Not announcing Kennedy, no commentary, Trackwrestling announcement (which was a PR nightmare), WNO kids missing weight, 5 people in the stands...

if that wasn't a bad weekend idk what to tell you.

they weren't remotely close to similar despite you really wanting them to be. 

for the umpteenth time, one was do to international law and i'm not RAF's PR department.

you're very clearly biased. the alternative is you're dumb and trying too hard.

You did say it a couple times, but pretty sure you started off pushing back and didn’t say it until after Basch went on his rant.  If I get bored maybe I’ll re-watch.

I don’t think it should have been canceled once it was planned.  I think there is a good argument that it never should have happened based on Russia’s status of invading Ukraine to steal their land, but that’s really a different conversation.   And yeah, the fact that x and youtube are banned by Russia is probably another indication that they’re a country we probably shouldn’t be supporting financially.

Might be a tough call if there were more American fans at Flo’s events or RAF Moscow.

You’re probably right that they weren’t remotely close to similar.  At least people with a Flo subscription still got to watch their events, which at the end of the day is all most subscribers care about.  Meanwhile people with a Fox Nation subscription, advertised as the exclusive way to stream RAF including on the day of the event, could not watch RAF Moscow on that service.

[Gene Mills Fan]

14 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 pushing back 

I think Willie has a right to critique something he started if that is the case.  So complaining about Flo may be a reach, but I can't watch Willie due to time constraints, so kinda blind there. 

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

I think Willie has a right to critique something he started if that is the case.  So complaining about Flo may be a reach, but I can't watch Willie due to time constraints, so kinda blind there. 

You’re suggesting Willie started RAF?

[MPhillips]

7 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

You’re suggesting Willie started RAF?

and FLO...

[1032004]

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

and FLO...

I mean, he didn’t start either, right?

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

I mean, he didn’t start either, right?

Don't try to get me to suggest anything.

[Gene Mills Fan]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

You’re suggesting Willie started RAF?

WNO he said.