Election Integrity

[braves121]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Maybe Trump just wants the elections to be safer / cleaner / fairer.   Ever think of that.  
 

he will naturally disappear from office In Due time.    If yall just ignore him your blood will boil less.   

Well trump has never given proof that our elections are not safe and unclean, They only shout voter fraud in elections they don’t win ala trump and 2020. If he’s saying our votes are not safe and unclean then how do we know trump actually won? All logic and reasoning starts to go out the door with the gop when you point that out 

[Caveira]

Just now, braves121 said:

Well trump has never given proof that our elections are not safe and unclean, They only shout voter fraud in elections they don’t win ala trump and 2020. If he’s saying our votes are not safe and unclean then how do we know trump actually won? All logic and reasoning starts to go out the door with the gop when you point that out 

Watch this.  I don’t pay attention to what he says.   Why?   It really doesn’t matter.   Ignore him.  It will make you healthier.   He will phase out of office and the world will go back to being exactly the same as it was before.  
 

and all politicians will still be trash.  

[mspart]

8 minutes ago, mspart said:

Lets say we hold an election of just the posters on this forum.   

The vote is for who is the best most reasonable poster here.   

What ruleset should be used to ensure that the election is fair and free from any question as to its integrity?

mspart

My input would be the following.  

1.  Only active posters in the last 2 months can vote

2.  Posters who have not posted in the last 2 months can vote.  No lurkers, must be contributing members.   

3.   2 months is defined as 61 days.  

4.  Candidates must be from this forum.  

5.  Polls close at 10 PM EDT on 10 Aug 2026.  

mspart

 

 

Edited July 17 by mspart

[Lipdrag]

Leftie math surfaces again!  Is RV the CNN poll statistician?

Are these the same people who tallied ballots for Biden in 2020?

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-poll-shows-125-of-americans-dont-believe-trumps-claim-of-election-fraud

[Offthemat]

3 hours ago, braves121 said:

It’s crazy how republicans keep saying 2020 election was stolen. Almost 600 days into this admin there have been no arrests. Not to mention the fact that trump saying china was able meddle with the 2020 election while HE was in charge yet we are supposed to believe the 2016, 2022, and 2024 elections were all legit because the gop won. This farce will continue until someone finally admits to trump he lost in 2020 and stop being yes men as we see in all the hearings for their confirmations 

You don’t understand much of anything about what has happened.  The 2016 election was loaded with fraudulent votes.  Hiliary knew about it and expected to win because of it, but the turnout for Trump was so large that it overwhelmed what the dimocrax had planned for.  That’s why she was so upset about the result, because she was counting on the fraudulent votes to give her the win, but they didn’t.  
 

The 2020 election was the ultimate in fraudulence, complete with unlawful and unconstitutional rules imposed by swing state governors, mail in voting with feckless signature verification, ballot harvesting, and obscured ballot counting.  The counting was paused long enough to obtain the tallies from the machines to indicate how many fraudulent votes were needed.  And miraculously, by morning they had arrived.  Anyone who believes Biden got 6 million more votes than Obama did would buy a bridge in Brooklyn, or ocean front property in Arizona. 
 

“I’m basically running a shadow government across the FBI at this point.” - FBI agent Nikki L. Floris 

is evidence of what was happening, who was doing it, why it wasn’t known by senior officials, and why it’s so difficult to prove. But they’re on the trail now and you can expect more to be revealed soon.  I would caution you to be wary of, and  suspicious of, those who disparage the reports before they’re even released.  

[JimmySpeaks]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-minnesota-fraud-scandal-takes-absurd-new-twist-as-veteran-blows-whistle/ar-AA288XK8?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=6a5acf37d35c4e2294936d7823e0d125&ei=16
 

 

voter fraud is much bigger than anyone thinks. 

[braves121]

1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

You don’t understand much of anything about what has happened.  The 2016 election was loaded with fraudulent votes.  Hiliary knew about it and expected to win because of it, but the turnout for Trump was so large that it overwhelmed what the dimocrax had planned for.  That’s why she was so upset about the result, because she was counting on the fraudulent votes to give her the win, but they didn’t.  
 

The 2020 election was the ultimate in fraudulence, complete with unlawful and unconstitutional rules imposed by swing state governors, mail in voting with feckless signature verification, ballot harvesting, and obscured ballot counting.  The counting was paused long enough to obtain the tallies from the machines to indicate how many fraudulent votes were needed.  And miraculously, by morning they had arrived.  Anyone who believes Biden got 6 million more votes than Obama did would buy a bridge in Brooklyn, or ocean front property in Arizona. 
 

“I’m basically running a shadow government across the FBI at this point.” - FBI agent Nikki L. Floris 

is evidence of what was happening, who was doing it, why it wasn’t known by senior officials, and why it’s so difficult to prove. But they’re on the trail now and you can expect more to be revealed soon.  I would caution you to be wary of, and  suspicious of, those who disparage the reports before they’re even released.  

So let me get this straight, 2016 was rigged and trump did nothing to prosecute voter fraud during his first term is that correct? Snd then there was voter fraud in 2020 with trump in charge and yet here we are 600 days in to his 2nd admin and still no arrests right? Seems like trump doesn’t care about so called “voter fraud” because it doesn't exist. The smoking gun is that the elections are rigged under gop control but fine under dem control in the 2020s, it’s quite an enigma 

Edited July 18 by braves121

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, braves121 said:

So let me get this straight, 2016 was rigged and trump did nothing to prosecute voter fraud during his first term is that correct? Snd then there was voter fraud in 2020 with trump in charge and yet here we are 600 days in to his 2nd admin and still no arrests right? Seems like trump doesn’t care about so called “voter fraud” because it doesn't exist. The smoking gun is that the elections are rigged under gop control but fine under dem control in the 2020s, it’s quite an enigma 

I don’t know what it is but what is the save act ?   What is it trying to prevent ?   Why do the Ds violently oppose it?

Edited July 18 by Caveira

[braves121]

23 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I don’t know what it is but what is the save act ?   What is it trying to prevent ?   Why do the Ds violently oppose it?

Republicans also oppose it that’s why they can’t pass it. all politicians are trash right?

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Republicans also oppose it that’s why they can’t pass it. all politicians are trash right?

Yes they are sir.   They are.    They crave power more than they crave helping the people they govern.  Been that way since humans were invented 

[braves121]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Yes they are sir.   They are.    They crave power more than they crave helping the people they govern.  Been that way since humans were invented 

So you recognize republicans also oppose the save act not just democrats?

[Caveira]

Just now, braves121 said:

So you recognize republicans also oppose the save act not just democrats?

Are you having trouble understanding what all means when all politicians are trash?

[braves121]

Just now, Caveira said:

Are you having trouble understanding what all means when all politicians are trash?

Well you exclusively post about democrats so just checking 

[Caveira]

Just now, braves121 said:

Well you exclusively post about democrats so just checking 

I exclusively post about the democrats because they will not acknowledge their politicians are trash.   They whine more than normal Americans and their ideology is inferior and if they get their socialist then communist agenda the country will be ruined. 

that doesn’t make all politicians less trashy. 

[braves121]

15 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I exclusively post about the democrats because they will not acknowledge their politicians are trash.   They whine more than normal Americans and their ideology is inferior and if they get their socialist then communist agenda the country will be ruined. 

that doesn’t make all politicians less trashy. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

You will admit your D politicians are corrupt trash and don’t care about you?

[WrestlingRasta]

The address the other night was nothing more than a kickoff party to open a very similar playbook to 2020.  Get the minions worked up pre election so that after the election can claim fraud and stolen election, and the minions will get on their knees and blow. 
 

Anyone who will actually look into the claims he made, instead of just taking anything he says and running with it, will find some  interesting things.  Just a couple of examples:

China:  I went to whitehouse.gov like he asked us to.   In the China documents, first and foremost a very large portion of those documents are blacked out, so a lot in those declassified documents they don’t want us to see.   In the parts that aren’t, the main theme is China having had plans to access voter data.  But no where is there anything in there about fraudulent votes being cast.  All a bunch of smoke and mirrors.  
 

Michigan: whoever writes his speeches should be fired over this one, because this was an old case that actually shows there are guardrails in place and they work.  The only reason I can think of why he included this case in his speech is because he knows just that: there are lots and lots of minions out there who will just take his word and run with it without looking into it themselves.  In short, this is a case where local election officials (in Michigan mind you) sniffed out a fraud scheme, investigated it, sent it to the FBI, and it was folded without one single fraudulent vote being cast.  HIS FBI closed this case out last year with zero fraudulent votes ever being cast.  
 

If I’m a Republican in Congress, I’m begging Trumps inner circle to get him to drop this 2020 nonsense for the rest of the time leading up to November, and focus on an unnecessary war that’s spiraling out of control, on doing what needs to be done to get gas prices and groceries prices and other things that actually impact Americans, and have been very negatively impacting them over the past year, and realize how stupid you look when your #1 agenda is crying election fraud while your party controls all three branches of government (Republican in the White House, Republican control of house and senate, 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court), and combine that with the fact that the big beautiful whiner himself has been indicted on both the federal and state level for election fraud, indictments that came from recorded phone conversations and testimony from his administration officials that wanted him to win the election, and maybe even more so mostly did not want Biden to win the election. 
 

Move on and start serving the American people. Otherwise you’re paving a road heading straight to Democrat control. 

[Caveira]

48 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The address the other night was nothing more than a kickoff party to open a very similar playbook to 2020.  Get the minions worked up pre election so that after the election can claim fraud and stolen election, and the minions will get on their knees and blow. 
 

Anyone who will actually look into the claims he made, instead of just taking anything he says and running with it, will find some  interesting things.  Just a couple of examples:

China:  I went to whitehouse.gov like he asked us to.   In the China documents, first and foremost a very large portion of those documents are blacked out, so a lot in those declassified documents they don’t want us to see.   In the parts that aren’t, the main theme is China having had plans to access voter data.  But no where is there anything in there about fraudulent votes being cast.  All a bunch of smoke and mirrors.  
 

Michigan: whoever writes his speeches should be fired over this one, because this was an old case that actually shows there are guardrails in place and they work.  The only reason I can think of why he included this case in his speech is because he knows just that: there are lots and lots of minions out there who will just take his word and run with it without looking into it themselves.  In short, this is a case where local election officials (in Michigan mind you) sniffed out a fraud scheme, investigated it, sent it to the FBI, and it was folded without one single fraudulent vote being cast.  HIS FBI closed this case out last year with zero fraudulent votes ever being cast.  
 

If I’m a Republican in Congress, I’m begging Trumps inner circle to get him to drop this 2020 nonsense for the rest of the time leading up to November, and focus on an unnecessary war that’s spiraling out of control, on doing what needs to be done to get gas prices and groceries prices and other things that actually impact Americans, and have been very negatively impacting them over the past year, and realize how stupid you look when your #1 agenda is crying election fraud while your party controls all three branches of government (Republican in the White House, Republican control of house and senate, 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court), and combine that with the fact that the big beautiful whiner himself has been indicted on both the federal and state level for election fraud, indictments that came from recorded phone conversations and testimony from his administration officials that wanted him to win the election, and maybe even more so mostly did not want Biden to win the election. 
 

Move on and start serving the American people. Otherwise you’re paving a road heading straight to Democrat control. 

I can’t remember if the Russians hacked the election anymore.   Did they.  Or were they purposefully lying to the public to rile up the minions?

[Caveira]

5 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The address the other night was nothing more than a kickoff party to open a very similar playbook to 2020.

The 2016 playbook?

here is a montage of politicians press well everyone on team D talking about Russian collusion 

 

 

[Simpleman424]

19 hours ago, braves121 said:

So let me get this straight, 2016 was rigged and trump did nothing to prosecute voter fraud during his first term is that correct? Snd then there was voter fraud in 2020 with trump in charge and yet here we are 600 days in to his 2nd admin and still no arrests right? Seems like trump doesn’t care about so called “voter fraud” because it doesn't exist. The smoking gun is that the elections are rigged under gop control but fine under dem control in the 2020s, it’s quite an enigma 

The first term where he was constantly getting attacked and leading up to the first impeachment? Talk about cutting a guys legs out from underneath him. They introduce bill this time for voter ID and he doesn’t care…they’ve been talking about these changes for YEARS. Acting like he should have come in guns blazing and prosecuting people is completely ignoring just how corrupt the Congress and Senate are. 

 

19 hours ago, braves121 said:

So you recognize republicans also oppose the save act not just democrats?

JD Vance just said in the Rogan podcast they have the votes and support for it in the Senate…

[Offthemat]

7 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The address the other night was nothing more than a kickoff party to open a very similar playbook to 2020.  Get the minions worked up pre election so that after the election can claim fraud and stolen election, and the minions will get on their knees and blow. 
 

Anyone who will actually look into the claims he made, instead of just taking anything he says and running with it, will find some  interesting things.  Just a couple of examples:

China:  I went to whitehouse.gov like he asked us to.   In the China documents, first and foremost a very large portion of those documents are blacked out, so a lot in those declassified documents they don’t want us to see.   In the parts that aren’t, the main theme is China having had plans to access voter data.  But no where is there anything in there about fraudulent votes being cast.  All a bunch of smoke and mirrors.  
 

Michigan: whoever writes his speeches should be fired over this one, because this was an old case that actually shows there are guardrails in place and they work.  The only reason I can think of why he included this case in his speech is because he knows just that: there are lots and lots of minions out there who will just take his word and run with it without looking into it themselves.  In short, this is a case where local election officials (in Michigan mind you) sniffed out a fraud scheme, investigated it, sent it to the FBI, and it was folded without one single fraudulent vote being cast.  HIS FBI closed this case out last year with zero fraudulent votes ever being cast.  
 

If I’m a Republican in Congress, I’m begging Trumps inner circle to get him to drop this 2020 nonsense for the rest of the time leading up to November, and focus on an unnecessary war that’s spiraling out of control, on doing what needs to be done to get gas prices and groceries prices and other things that actually impact Americans, and have been very negatively impacting them over the past year, and realize how stupid you look when your #1 agenda is crying election fraud while your party controls all three branches of government (Republican in the White House, Republican control of house and senate, 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court), and combine that with the fact that the big beautiful whiner himself has been indicted on both the federal and state level for election fraud, indictments that came from recorded phone conversations and testimony from his administration officials that wanted him to win the election, and maybe even more so mostly did not want Biden to win the election. 
 

Move on and start serving the American people. Otherwise you’re paving a road heading straight to Democrat control. 

You and 51 former senior intelligence officials, huh?

[WrestlingRasta]

Don’t forget his AG Bill Barr, and his daughter Ivanka, and his campaign manager Bill Stepien, and his deputy AG Richard Donaghue, and his campaign data expert Matt Oczkowski, and his campaign attorney Alex Cannon, as well as his counselor Kellyanne Conway, Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger, and a whole long list of republicans who were of close and intimate knowledge of election results, wanted Trump to win, definitley didn’t want Biden to win, and told Trump he lost. 
 

As for continuing to bring up Russia, that’s an interesting aspect of the document dump as well (not that I expect many around here to actually go through the files and read them…why should you when you have your favorite SM influencers and echo chambers to tell you what to think). The dump also includes intelligence assessment reports stating Russia was attempting to smear Biden and influence perception in Trumps favor.  I tell ya, someone’s getting fired over some of the things that are in those documents, they don’t paint the picture Trump wants painted.  Then again, he knows many across the land will just listen to what he says and not actually look themselves.  
 

Happy Sunday all!!  

[Caveira]

59 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Don’t forget his AG Bill Barr, and his daughter Ivanka, and his campaign manager Bill Stepien, and his deputy AG Richard Donaghue, and his campaign data expert Matt Oczkowski, and his campaign attorney Alex Cannon, as well as his counselor Kellyanne Conway, Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger, and a whole long list of republicans who were of close and intimate knowledge of election results, wanted Trump to win, definitley didn’t want Biden to win, and told Trump he lost. 
 

As for continuing to bring up Russia, that’s an interesting aspect of the document dump as well (not that I expect many around here to actually go through the files and read them…why should you when you have your favorite SM influencers and echo chambers to tell you what to think). The dump also includes intelligence assessment reports stating Russia was attempting to smear Biden and influence perception in Trumps favor.  I tell ya, someone’s getting fired over some of the things that are in those documents, they don’t paint the picture Trump wants painted.  Then again, he knows many across the land will just listen to what he says and not actually look themselves.  
 

Happy Sunday all!!  

Don’t forget Hillary running  around for years saying the election was stolen and illegitimate 

[WrestlingRasta]

15 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Don’t forget Hillary running  around for years saying the election was stolen and illegitimate 

Thank you for contributing.  Up until now, you have yet to indicate whether Sunday was a “must stay on topic” day for you, or a “deflecting to new topic is okay” day for you.  We now see you have Sunday marked as a deflection day, apparently Saturday as well.  
 

Appreciate you clearing that up for us.   Have you read the files on whitehouse.gov yet?  Or do you not want to take the time on such things? 

[Simpleman424]

47 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Don’t forget Hillary running  around for years saying the election was stolen and illegitimate 

She still says that…