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Is the D1 wrestling-to-UFC pipeline nearly closed?
wrestle87 replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
You need to look beyond the UFC for information on this. You should include smaller promotions who pay their athletes far better, and you should also include juco and d2, maybe even d3 guys. I would say the pipeline to mma has not closed, but to the UFC yes, most likely. When the UFC was getting going and the first era of wrestlers were coming through, these were guys who went through college on rice and ketchup and who couldn't believe that they could get paid to use their skills in any way. This meant they were willing to accept sh*tty terms and crap treatment from UFC management. The first cohorts also got their start in an era before the UFC reebok deal, which wholesale killed the largest source of income for athletes. Dana white is a good businessman, but he is 100% the daniel plainview of MMA. He has shown time and again that he is happy to burn the livelihoods of 1,000 of people to further his own means by .5%. Like all truly obsessed people, he is sociopathic in his pursuit of his goals. No different from Jordan or Tiger. This means, quite simply, you don't want to work for the guy, and wrestlers have tended to look towards more competitive pastures for their entries into MMA. Bellator has a ton of US wrestlers. Dana also cares about markets, and he gets all his grapplers from Dagestan because that keeps Eastern European interest in the UFC alive. Also, now, with NIL, wrestlers are able to actually benefit from wrestling in college, and they aren't assuming they have to wholesale destroy their bodies in order to have any sort of livelihood. The expectations of the collective of competitors has evolved greatly, and that is awesome for everyone involved. The UFC is not a good thing to be involved in, both from a health and career perspective. -
Trump doesn't know if he's supposed to uphold the constitution
ionel replied to Tripnsweep's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
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cowcards replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Looks like you have your next data project. Time to get researching on the heights off all past Olympic/World Champs at each weight. -
Is the D1 wrestling-to-UFC pipeline nearly closed?
okokzach replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
I think the 'American wrestling is the best MMA base' argument is can no longer hold up to scrutiny, but I think there are plenty of great athletes that will come from American wrestling and have good MMA careers. But to do that, they'll have to shed the notion that their wrestling is going to carry them to the top. Bo didn't even do well in wrestling positions. That should be a wakeup call to him. -
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flyingcement replied to Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan's topic in High School Wrestling
He has a great attack rate and offensive arsenal, judging from his US Open -
it's 2030 america is being invaded trump sends the military to bottle up the beach head and send them back into the sea an activist judge stops the military from shooting... demanding a hearing for each soldier before they can be attacked dems and crazy woke wingers (but I repeat myself) applaud the judges ruling
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Trump doesn't know if he's supposed to uphold the constitution
ionel replied to Tripnsweep's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
Obviously Biden didn't believe in the Constitution and did not fulfill his oath of office. If he had Trump wouldn't have to be wasting his time on a workaround. I don't understand how Obama was able to cage immigrants & children, deport them and carry out drone strikes without due process. Maybe they taught him a loop hole at Harvard Law. Also how did we get around due process with the 911 perpetrators sent to GITMO? Maybe they were never in the US but I do remember folks complaining. -
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Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan replied to Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan's topic in High School Wrestling
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After looking up the UFC top 16 rankings, the the only D1 wrestlers I can identify offhand are Michael Chandler and Colby Covington. That's... not a lot. Has MMA evolved to the point where it's nearly impossible for D1 wrestlers to make it to the top of MMA?
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Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan replied to Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan's topic in College Wrestling
So are the Larkin Boys staying put in ASU? There was soooooo much smoke that they were leaving to ISU. Or is there still smoke? -
probably pretty well, but he can actually make world teams so that’s on hold for now.
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Should Bo Nickal retire from MMA?
Hammerlock3 replied to Jimmy Cinnabon's topic in College Wrestling
better than your god apparently