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Putting aside the theft and SA claims, the claim that he was taking nude photos of teammates in the shower and posting in the group chat. That's more than a he-said/she-said situation. It's provable with the group chat. If that was reported to the coaching staff and they didn't report up the chain of command, that's a fireable offense.

Yes

WTF

if you keep having to defend him from this... perhaps there is fire causing the smoke?

If these allegations are true, and they are horrendous allegations, to be clear, then I believe Cael Sanderson and his entire staff will be let go. There is without a doubt a traceable pattern of lack of institutional control that is impossible to ignore, dating back to the Andrew Long saga. The cone of silence around that program becomes much more sinister when you realize all that it may have been hiding. Win at all costs, hide behind God. That's the Penn State way.

Read the book, The New Breed Living Iowa Wresling by Mike Chapman....https://www.amazon.com/New-Breed-Living-Iowa-Wrestling/dp/0880112581

I can't open it. Isn't this the first post of the thread?

I thought Beau was a Basch guy too. Re watching it, I was surprised how much he dismissed Beau making an allegation because he was leaving NLWC in favor of CStar. Willie asked him to set up what happened and before even saying anything related to the allegation or what was posted, he just says "nothingburger"

I can’t post pics…. But i can post tweets

this seems like bartlett and his wife are the ones who found the "victims" here and it just doesn't have a strong ring of truth

the author of the article, this thread sheds a little more light

Sure. But is that what the coaches learned? What they have is a student telling them stuff they had in their locker isn't their anymore. Even assuming that means it was stolen (and not lost/misplaced, which the coach won't know), what they don't have is any credible evidence that it was stolen by one of their athletes, as opposed to someone else. (Remember, this is before police looked at camera footage.)

Is it true? mspart

I can understand jross's assertion. Who can tell where the Cook Islands are specifically without looking it up. I couldn't some time ago. When I lived in Hawaii, Aloha Airlines started flying to the Cook Islands. I was like where is that? I knew where Iran was, but not the Cook Islands. Granted Iran seems to be more relevant to world issues, but who has even heard of the Cook Islands? Is it important to know about the Cook Islands? So I can see what he is talking about. mspart

My kids are color blind. That might be a rough major for them!! mspart

Saying Zohran hates Jews has been a common complaint against him

Honestly, they deserve to be cooked. I have been a huge supporter for a long time, but this is the epitome of "all your eggs in one basket" as a sport. If this goes south, this will be a problem that takes the better part of the next decade to come back from. People talk about the OSU sanctions back in the 80's and early 90's being bad, this will be worse. And frankly, it should be. Wrestling historically has a problem of not holding highest performers to the standards of human decency. In the past people have often sited Sanderson has having a "dry" sense of humor. In retrospect, it is really starting to just sound like another instance of athletic sociopathy, where the only thing that matters is winning, and apparently truly winning at all costs. Gable had standards, Smith appeared to at least require some human decency from his athletes. This issue with this is it casts a pall on the entire program, and everyone in the entire room for the entire time that someone like this was around. And frankly, it should. Bartlett is brave for doing what he did, and saying what he did. That takes incredible conviction and courage as a young man, but it is also a massive indictment of the powers that be in the institution that empowered negative actors for such a long time. With how tightly the coaches have that program under lock and key, there's not a chance in hell that the coaches didn't know about this. Ben Askren, come back healthy please, we need you now more than ever.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/06/26/trump-and-netanyahus-2-state-vision-gaza-wars-end-abraham-accords-expansion/ But he is trying to end the war in Gaza. He prevented (for now) war between Iran and Israel. This guy is a real war monger. Trump and Netanyahu's 2-state vision: Gaza war's end, Abraham Accords expansion They reached consensus on these fundamental principles in general terms: Gaza hostilities to conclude within two weeks, Abraham Accords expansion to include Syria and Saudi Arabia, a two-state solution with limited Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. mspart

It seems like it was reported. Did you see the part where security cameras were reviewed and people interviewed by the police?

Isn't getting tea-bagged a good thing?

This is a part of the article that I'd bet large amounts of money is inaccurate. If it's really true that the cops were so bumblingly incompetent that they were "unable to contact" Starocci for six freaking months, then everyone in that chain of command should be fired. But I think it's exponentially more likely that they contacted Starocci, and he either said nothing or said he did not want to talk about it. It's conventional wisdom that if you're being investigated for a crime, you don't talk to the cops. If he asked a lawyer for advice, that's what the lawyer would say. Most people know that. That seems far more likely what happened here.

Not totally ludicrous, since if the goods were never found, and there's no video of Starocci with them, and there's no admission....that's it. So if this happened and was more about Starocci getting "revenge" or just messing with Bartlett, and he just took the items and destroyed them/got rid of them...that's unlikely to result in an arrest unless either Carter admits or someone provides actual evidence of it happening.

Do casual MMA fans care about Lance Palmer though? I don’t mind the old-timers, but I don’t understand why they’d match them up with guys that are current world medalist contenders.

You would love that wouldn't you.

Boy this sounds really familiar.