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I don’t know about the voting persuasions you cited, but I tend to agree with your point on using fraudulent documents for employment vs voting. There would be an obvious practical incentive to use fraud for employment purposes. The person could get a job they wouldn’t normally be allowed to have - there would be a necessity to it. Voting on the other hand seems like all risk with very little reward for the individual. It’s also entirely optional compared with earning money to pay one’s bills. The SSN claim also sounds a little odd. SSN is not something that gets directly used in voting unlike paying wages and taxes. In fact SSN is not a required field on the AZ voter registration form. The SSN field is optional and only asks for the last 4 digits. You must provide proof of citizenship but that could be a birth certificate which would not have a SSN on it either and I don’t know if that was required in 2020 which I think is the election applicable to the claim. If someone were trying to illegally vote why provide a SSN at all? That simply makes it more likely to get caught, no? I wonder what SSN were these votes allegedly cast under? 000-00-000? How did they determine it to be illegal aliens that voted? https://azsos.gov/sites/default/files/docs/az_voter_registration_form_standard_20240613.pdf

https://youtu.be/fJh9t9h6Wn0?feature=shared Whenever I hear people say this Jimmy, I think about this opening scene in the show Newsroom.

Why wouldn’t they ? Fraud is fraud

I think he is taking a similar approach to Who's #1 that Flo does. He's inviting all the big names, but that doesn't mean they'll go. For example, Ono and Arujau are both cited there for 61 KG. Arujau is having a rather serious surgery today and Ono is focused on Penn State right now.

When anyone else, including Trump, calls other countries crapholes, that is considered racist and bigoted. Are you a racist and bigot or is it just another double standard you live by?

I agree with your initial take, it just didn't include Goin or Sollars - who are still 'just' R12/R16 type guys.

"It doesn't get any better than this!!!!"

So why do you constantly complain about it?

Where??

No, but you're right about whether Ed would have said that.

The Trump administration has been investigating this for years now. I'm sure they will publish a comprehensive report documenting the fraud if they find credible evidence.

Even if it were true - I don't think thousands of illegal aliens voted in AZ, though it's not surprising at all many are using fraudulent documents for employment purposes - I think you'd be surprised to see how many of them would vote conservative. Illegal immigrants from Latin America are incredibly socially conservative. The Latino vote in general continues to shift conservative for this reason. Many are economically populist - which is why politicians like Bernie do very well with them - but establishment dems like Harris who offer very little economic policy and mostly signal on liberal cultural issues do not do well with them.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire

A claim on x.com states that 10K illegal aliens voted in Arizona using the same SSN. A google search results in articles claiming it was disproven. Let's step back and ask if there is a precedence of illegal aliens using SSNs of citizens. Antidote - Occurred to someone I know My step-dad had it happen to him in Chicago. He found out from the IRS when they were auditing him for underpaying taxes on wages from the identity thief. Report - 114,023 illegal documents seized by Immigration and Naturalization Service officials in 2001. 2002. https://www.gao.gov/assets/a109438.html U.S. General Accounting Office report number GAO-02-830T -- 'Identity Fraud: Prevalence and Links to Alien Illegal Activities' According to Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) officials, the use of fraudulent documents by aliens is extensive. At ports of entry, INS inspectors have intercepted tens of thousands of fraudulent documents in each of the last few years. These documents were presented by aliens attempting to enter the United States to seek employment or obtain other immigration benefits, such as naturalization or permanent residency status. The types of false documents most frequently intercepted by INS inspectors include border crossing cards, alien registration cards, nonimmigrant visas, and passports and citizenship documents (both U.S. and foreign). Also, INS has reported that large-scale counterfeiting has made fraudulent employment eligibility documents (e.g., Social Security cards) widely available. Reportedly, large-scale counterfeiting has made employment eligibility documents widely available. For example, in May 1998, INS seized more than 24,000 counterfeit Social Security cards in Los Angeles after undercover agents purchased 10,000 counterfeit INS permanent resident cards from a counterfeit document ring. Article - Millions of instances of mismatched W-2 and Social Security Records. Trillion dollar increase in uncredited wages. 2018. https://www.irli.org/39-million-irli-investigation-reveals-massive-identity-fraud-by-illegal-al/ IRLI recently filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Social Security Administration (SSA), seeking records related to its Obama-era decision to halt sending “no-match” letters to employers. The long-held practice of sending the letters had been used to prevent fraud through the use of stolen Social Security number (SSN) data by illegal aliens and other criminals. A “no-match” letter informed employers and employees, usually in response to an employee W-2 wage report, that the name or SSN reported by the employer did not match a name or SSN combination reflected in SSA’s records. The FOIA records produced by SSA as a result of IRLI’s lawsuit have shown that, from 2012 to 2016, there were 39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records. Additionally, over $409 billion was added to the Earnings Suspense File (ESF), which holds uncredited wages that can’t be correctly matched to SSA’s database. From 1937 to 2005, $519 billion was reported to be sitting in the ESF. In tax year 2016, that number rose to over $1.5 trillion. Article - 11 illegal aliens busted with solen SSNs in Arizona 2025. https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/pr/eleven-illegal-aliens-charged-falsely-claiming-be-united-states-citizens-and-document Each illegal alien who was charged possessed and used a counterfeit state identification card or driver’s license, as well as a counterfeit Social Security card, to obtain employment at a business in Arizona. The illegal aliens also falsely attested on Form I-9 to being United States citizens or to being otherwise authorized to work in the United States, when in fact none of them were United States citizens or authorized to work in the United States. Stopping here. There is much more information out there into the thousands of stolen identities and false documents by illegal aliens. Yes. It is known that an unknown large numbers of illegal aliens use fake and stolen documentation.

Good stuff, and I appreciate this. It shows my lack of knowledge, I would have thought the guys I named the highest ranked on the team.

Oh, thanks...

If Captain America has actually pulled out of Real American Freestyle for some sportswashing $$$ that does not give me warm and fuzzy feelings.

Big if true

https://usafacts.org/articles/why-do-people-immigrate-us/ Asians coming here to get educated. Thats kinda funny.

Would that friend of yours have been Ed Aliverti....sounds like something he would have said????

Bigot

I can't see Bo not in the Big 10.

a benefit for wrestling would be if went to VT and ACC Network Friday night dual viewership increased so much it leads to them showing more wrestling like the Big Ten Network.