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A 4x returning champ has more than enough cred to warrant a one seed. This doesn’t need to be questioned.

If he's getting screwed it's by whomever at his school or on the coaching staff that told him he could have a fifth postseason. The free year was pretty clear, and he didn't use it. I really fail to see a screw job in the NCAA not allowing a fifth year for him. Seems like he is in the bracket, though..... If this were 15 years ago, I’d agree. But at this point, all of these rules are pointless and arbitrary. The NCAA is simply a hollow leach of a media rights brokerage. The shine is off the moral superiority of amateur athletics, I see no reason for the NCAA to exist for any reason other than convention and “we need something to call ourselves”. These rules just exist so donks in suits can continue to have their hooks in young people trying to pursue a passion. That’s disgusting. I would be very happy if the NCAA acronym disappeared, and men’s wrestling fell under the same acronym as women’s wrestling.

Really? Put yourself in this kid’s shoes and the answer becomes self-evident in half a second. The 2020 seniors definitely got screwed the hardest though, no question.

That’s really ***ducking** stupid if they do that to this kid. Guys have been enrolled in college for practically a decade amongst the various ways other people have said. People also stay back in school as far back as middle school. We’re really going to begrudge a kid a year even though the same and more has been awarded to active wrestlers? This is the first time this kid qualified for nationals too. I’m not even going to say the ncaa made the error, bc this isn’t an error. He was enrolled in college during covid, jtfc isn’t that enough to say he’s had enough taken from him already?

This is a great opportunity to point out, I don’t have any dislike for the brands, they are a vital part of wrestling, and college wrestling becomes a shell of itself without them. I have frustration with them that they aren’t developing guys, outwardly it appears this is the case because they are refusing to put the fire and brimstone aside to explore the creativity and positive thinking that has revamped so many programs. It’s brutal to say, but it feels like the thing that made them great in their time as wrestlers is currently a ball and chain keeping them from getting where they want to be. I entreat the hawkeye faithful to pay for a T&T ayahuasca excursion.

This is both fascinating and instructive. It’s almost like there’s a reason coaches go to bat so hard during seeding meetings. Almost like that sh*t really matters!

Kasak is the next Zain Retherford. Heard it here first. Dude is the meanest wrestler on that roster, and is a brick sh*thouse. Edit: @Husker_Duare we now required to not use “bad words” as part of maintaining marketability for your new advertising provider?

False equivalency while also actively not engaging with the crux of the discussion. The focus on Iowa’s transfers is because their non-transfers by and large show very lackluster development. Other top teams are doing a great job developing their athletes from the ground up.

Coach Ryan has had a very long and challenging year. We also need to remember that if this wasn’t broadcast, nobody would care AT ALL. This sort of thing happens at just about every match where a coach is keyed up and an illegal move is called. It’s so exceedingly rare that coaches get angry at the call almost 100% of the time. All the more so when it is a match that could end an athlete’ season. And sure they can ask for another coach, but they have a top 5 coaching staff in the country. Like, who do they think is really going to step in and do a better job? Unless they can poach Casey Cunningham or Bryan Snyder, whoever comes in won’t be as good as Coach Ryan.

Since 2010, Ohio State is absolutely a Blue blood program. Probably the #3 program in the country. They were absolutely pioneers in pushing resources into new wrestling facilities, and they have time and again landed some of the country’s biggest recruits. Who is above them in terms of prestige and accomplishment since 2010 besides Iowa and Penn State?

I mean it would be great if they could. This is the distinction between coach of athletes vs manager of program. I think the brands are amazing program managers, I think they are still the most important figureheads in the sport of wrestling. But they leave a lot to be desired in terms of actual conveyance of technical skill. It’s almost unheard of that a coach can teach a technique they themselves couldn’t hit as an athlete. The brands had a brutally rudimentary skillset, they just delivered it with immense force. But that’s not where wrestling is anymore. The sport is three revisions beyond that time period at least. To be a successful college wrestler, you have to be able to do the splits, and you need robust literacy with the roll through ankle scramble positions. They basically are half the sport at this point. Iowa’s not exactly bringing the funk to their arsenal in an overly big way.

Nick Lee made a world team did he not?

Uh…they have purchased technical ability up and down the roster this year so, I dunno…do they? How much of their homegrown talent regularly “beats everybody” anymore?

This is a nice rally around Iowa, but that is not the message that anybody is sending about Iowa and is mot the point. We all know Penn State is a preposterous machine. What we also know and have watched is that Iowa is now buying more and more on the market, and they are not putting guys out there who show any sort of technical evolution, at least to what is relevant in modern wrestling. The guys who show up at Iowa need to already have an arsenal, and whatever they have in high school is all they’ll have their senior year. Hard collar tie, elbow post, high crotch is middle school technique. It worked for the brands in the 90’s, but the point of coaching is to help wrestlers evolve and get better. That is something they have not done for a long time, and it is why people are critical of them. Iowa wrestlers flow like a bag of rocks, and their on the mat style has been surpassed.

It’s probably an ACL or MCL, it happens when cardenas is working on finishing his single that was the winning takedown, he applies side pressure at the knee and you can see Barr react for 1-2 seconds before continuing to defend for a little bit.

Is it already 100% that he's not going to get a wildcard?

Tazhudinov about to get a bag to be repatriated back to the home team?

I legitimately think he has CTE issues. Spear double was his #1 move in high school, and he used it with success against BIG boys. I'm sure he's dabbled in MMA over the years as well. He's slurring a not insignificant amount in this video even compared to his interviews immediately following his win in the national finals however many years ago. Just, yikes bro, hope he is taking care of his noggin.

If this is what happens to the best wrestler in the world and in the nation’s history, I think that really tells us how much (lack) of a choice the national team wrestlers had in whether or not they could attend those military displays over the past few years. ”You will show up, or you will encounter a situation where you need wings, but don’t have them”

“Praise be to Jesus” is going to be a really popular phrase in the coming decade, you heard it here first. #1 all jesus team is cael. He’s the great helmsman who introduced the modern age of the best wrestlers to the positive impacts of religion on sports-psychology. Tom Ryan also doesn’t get enough credit for being an early mover in the golden age of wrestling bible belt, which in my opinion just ended recently.

Reading comprehension is weak with this one. ”I use emotionally loud syntax to completely dismiss and distract from nuanced discussion that has been put forth!”

That’s my mistake for not clarifying sufficiently, I was referring to his performances at the big annual tournament, be it worlds or olympics. If your position is he’s always been good but is a guy that takes losses, then the vocabulary has to change but the meaning stays the same. NLWC isn’t doing as good a job at this as the Ohio State crew at prepping and peaking snyder for the big annual competitions.

No that's definitely not the case. I’m one of the biggest PSU homers on here. They make most guys better. They’ve made snyder worse.

I couldn’t disagree more about the talent level at 97kg. There’s been one guy, snyder, and then everybody else his whole career. He beat that one guy early in his career, then he lost to that one guy but nobody else, now he loses to a lot of the field, and it’s because he doesn’t have a meaningful gameplan or techniques that he feels confident in. He hasn’t wrestled with real confidence in a long time. He 100% had what it takes to beat tazhudinov at the olympics, but he panicked and just started throwing stuff at a wall and walked into a chest wrap. I state this not to bag on the snyderman, it takes the right team to help anyone prepare for that level. I don’t think NLWC is the right team for him to maximize his wrestling ability, because since he moved he’s been leaving 10-20% on the table with the strategy and style changes they have fed him.

Snyderman has only gotten worse since moving to Penn State. He is one of the few athletes to ever have that happen, obviously he is very good still, but he is 100% the wrong build for the style that they teach in that room. Dude is a fire plug, that's not exactly a build is great at getting to anklepicks. Sorry to say it, but he was at his best with Tervel. I'm sure NLWC takes care of him very well, as they should, but NLWC in my opinion has put a lid on his ability. NLWC are absolute garbage on the mat and garbage at freestyle-focused transitions and turns. No belly whizzer, no crotch lift, nobody since frank molinaro has had a dirty head pinch, they just play the takedown game and assume their overall wrestling ability will be enough which, usually it is. This approach really removes a lot from guys like snyder, since what they preach doesn't work when you are a human wario.