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Heck of a scramble, the announcers calling the hail mary chin whip "good fundamentals" is feeling like a throwback to the old ESPN early 2000's broadcasts.

Paid sponsorship is great, isn't it?

I'm still really enjoying that the camera guy has decided a ref standing around doing nothing is as important as the wrestlers actually competing with one another...the fk is this crap. Bigten hiring the local high school equipment managers to run their broadcast.

This is sone of the worst camerawork I’ve seen for a wrestling broadcast in history. Keep the wrestlers in the freaking center of the screen.

Coach dresser really sounding like the type of coach kids stay in touch with for their whole life.

They really couldn't re-record the segment?

This, and the opposite applied in the right situation as well. Thank goodness for officials with an understanding of the sport. Officials, good ones at least, will also recognized two different reactions when an opponent is getting waxed. They will know when a kid is trying their best but just getting overpowered, and they also recognize turtling up to try to save match points.

Seriously, gravity is very real. Always do the car mechanic equivalent of measure twice cut once.

To my eyes, behaving so badly that the brands brothers aren’t able to integrate you into the fold at Iowa. It’s one thing to have barbs to throw at okie state, bc most of the world who interacts with that program does, but Iowa is another deal entirely. That school and that community bends over backwards for its athletes in a special way, and the brands wield their influence rather sizably, the only thing that has to happen is you have to put in the work and make the room better. Perfect example is austin desanto, kid was a total liability, but he showed he was willing to work on himself, and he absolutely made the room better, so the Iowa collective figured it out. The elder brothers seem incapable of winning many people over. Besides the boos, it was pretty clear from the way the Iowa wrestlers treated them that the two older brothers were pretty solidly persona non-grata in the room as well. Being an NCAA champ who is unwelcome in the two most historic programs in wrestling history is a major red flag. Also, johnny poz is a tremendous kid. He’s a bit small for 197, but he could AA. There’s no way goodale burns the programs current golden boy to import room cancer.

Bare minimum Goodale recognizes kids who have things happening away from the room that could be a big problem. He knows how that can go, and has seen a number of guys enter and exit the program at different times. Rutgers also is nowhere near as forgiving for wrestlers in terms of behavior as many bigger brand schools. What flies at OSU or Iowa would absolutely get you thrown out the door at Rutgers. The program just doesn’t have that kind of leverage within the school.

This is a tad inaccurate. AJ was the eldest, and had minimal coverage compared to what the family gets now. If this many eyeballs were on him back then, it would have stood out. Go watch Angelo’s C&C podcast, he actually sounds like a human being, he’s self deprecating, knows how to laugh at his brothers while also being respectful when it matters, kid has a solid head on his shoulders, and has quietly seen a lot as only the youngest brother can.

The dude’s halo is really a groovy ‘shroom, jesus knew how to walk on water in the most 70’s way possible.

Bc at Ivy’s, academics is a full-time sport so to speak. The number of kids who can handle that academic load and keep up with athletics.

I continue to feel like pyles is a solid three rungs above where he should be in terms of influence and impact on the sport. He's a grown man getting in twitter fights with an athlete who clearly is not well.

If the youngest stays well balanced and is able to extract himself from the insanity, he is going to either write a killer book or have an incredible podcast in 15 years.

Eggum is the Minnesota analog to Brands, but seemingly does it with in a much more palatable fashion. He’s not J-rob, per se, and there’s no chance he brings home a title ever, but we can say the same things about every coach not named cael right now. I’m not a gopher die hard, and I 100% leave this open to die hard fans to correct me on, but I do have to say, on average, the minnesota wrestlers I’ve come across rank very close to the top of the competitive ranks in terms of composure, behavior, and regularly exemplifying the best qualities of the sport day in and day out. Also, didn’t J-Rob take the proverbial bullet for his athletes? He made an immense sacrifice to give one of his wrestlers a second chance. Even if some of those kids were making bad choices, he also knew full well how duplicitous college administrations are.

Because their room is already harder than anything they’ll face in competition. They also don’t need the matches with all the competition they get in throughout the year. A major part of their success is they classically under-wrestle in-season volume, they have for a long time, and they are rewarded with healthier teams and natl titles. Dual meets are just dress rehearsals to them.

I agree with you that this young man needs guidance, I draw the line for grace when his behavior is actively physically harming innocent bystanders (his opponents). This also isn’t high school, this is a D1 program, and we are talking about an athlete in his 20’s. I agree he needs help, but you lose the ability to be “given another chance” when you regularly maim others by intentionally leaving the established rules of competition. Obviously the coaches are trying to give him a lot of chances, but at a certain point you also have to have standards, bc its disrespectful to and dangerous for all the other athletes who aren’t throwing haymaker knee bars on single legs. Grace is good, and I support it, but it doesn’t have to and shouldn’t come at the expense of others.

This is very true, but it is getting to the point that coach Nickerson can be argued to be complicit in contributing to the creation of a dangerous wrestling environment by continuing to put that guy out there. Wrestling is about scoring points, and wrestlers position themselves to that end. This obviously leaves joints open to aggressive il-intentioned manipulation. This wrestler has clearly studied where these opportunities are, joint locks are not hard to research nowadays, and is happy to go to that playing field whenever he likes. At any moment a collar tie can become a punch, a front headlock can become a guillotine, a short offense underhook can become a kimura. By continuing to put this wrestler on the mat northern colorado is destroying the agreement and trust which underpins a wrestling match. The kid knee-bared an unsuspecting opponent. That move can destroy legs and destroy lives. If I were a college coach I would keep northern colorado at arms length.

To clarify, does dry mean year round or just in season?

Yes, this is exactly what recruiting is built on, to the extent that most programs don’t have a playbook for kids that doesn’t really party that much.

In an attempt to punch his teammate, he punched a ref in the face.

AJ looked sane enough in high school, just hard-nosed. Getting freedom and being away from parents didn’t really go too well.

Nah, but I bet Arizona State is ready and waiting.

Or, more accurately, they were raised by people coming from a place of notable insecurity, who passed that on to their kids, and have only taught them to embrace and identify with the most expensive and caustic corners of the human emotional spectrum.