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Same...I did not see that coming in a million years.

Lol, it was the ASU athletic department that did it in house...

Zahid always gives off major wanderlei silva "duck out the side door" vibes, and I still have a sneaking suspicion that Zeke Jones enabling him the whole way through was another contributing factor to Sunkist becoming past tense. The fact that ASU, arguably the nations largest party school, had to step in and take him off the team for partying too hard says everything we ever needed to wonder.

I hope that’s not the case, especially with the incredible double standard the US enforced (or pretends to enforce) on its athletes in international competition. This would also smell so badly of home cooking.

Always remember, don’t sleep on Kale. In the 90’s pizza hut was the biggest purchaser of kale because they used it as decoration at their buffets. Now look how far the humble leafy green has gotten…

I am surprised at how bummed I am to hear DT might turn down the OSU job. That would be such a boost to the sport. My family members who know comparatively little about wrestling were pumped to hear about this interview process happening.

Someone will take him onboard no problem. He’s a big enough name for a tier 1B team, and he did some serious development at UNC. Someone will be interested. Maybe he can be the next head coach at stanford. The move is starting to look worse and worse for him though.

I very much anticipate this happening. And really, the administration has already soured their relationship with him, and continue to do so with each passing day that they don’t name him head coach. Schools and admin teams know when they have their guy, bc they pull the trigger. This really is an all or nothing deal, bc if they don’t get taylor, now coleman undoubtedly has to have some feelings about this, may even be putting out feelers, because taylor may have designs on who he wants in that position as well. Oh the irony if CS is the USAWrestling freestyle development coach a year from now.

There is no more heart button, which is exactly what this should be for. Couldn’t agree more.

Please remind me....how did the US do in the 1980 olympics?

Hopefully we see a Sun Devil RTC popping up, minus mr jungle nose candy and mr grabby grabs. I hope zeke is a nice coach, but that dude is also an undeniable enabler.

Hard to say it, but probably a lot of input from Lesnar early on, and then insufficient guidance/Lesnar hanging up his boots around the time Steveson really got going. It’s no coincidence that lesnar is from the same program and steveson decided to try WWE. The tough part is steveson has the athleticism that you would expect from lesnar, when lesnar was just a pincussion who got paid to yell at a crowd a couple hundred times a year.

Yeah, that’s my bad, I thought we were just talking about coaching credentials. Please excuse me while I go have a conversation with my reading comprehension teacher.

I don’t mean to nitpick, I think Jrob deserves to be in this conversation

Does make me feel a bit bad, but that’s also part of the game, coleman 11th houred his kids at UNC, which was shitty of him to do, so…I’m more inclined to feel that karma is real and is a bit of a bitch when it comes back around. He could have been so much more above board about it, but he chose to be selfish with his decision, and left his guys hanging. Had a coach do that in college, and it basically ruins the season. From a wrestling perspective, that stuff needs to be communicated in the spring, anything later than that has a real cost for the team you leave. So, for CS, sucks if it happens, but you also get what you give.

The difference here is that Taylor has built guys who’ve reached the top level. Dion hasn’t worked yet because people underestimated the speed and physical aspects of top D1 schools. Colorado was too small and beat up all year. He also just social media’d his way into the position. Taylor has the ability to coach his guys to be good at all levels, because he started as a tiny guy and built himself up. Dion was never a lineman or a backer.

I did not expect to like this idea so much, but it would be undeniably excellent for the sport. David would bring so much of that room’s knowledge, and would put his own spin on it, potentially also disseminating some of that on down the line to the broader wrestling community, this would improve wrestling across the board below college as well.

Extra special considering CS is from Pennsylvania.

Unfortunately, this would be a very unsurprising result. Ultimately, this is a Higher Ed position, and Higher Ed is only matched in its ruthlessness by its self-serving politicing and total lack of morality. They already threw espo out a window, and he gave them more than 20 years between competing and coaching, it would only be the 10,000th time that a coach who took a position based on underhanded decision making also got boned in the 11th hour at the altar of the same lack of transparency or honesty. Considering J Smith’s accolades, CS would be a big step down on that front. One NCAA title, one world/olympic team and one medal? Okie State is a bigger program than that. CS may be a legacy cowboy, but he’s not blue blood USA wrestling by any stretch, and as crappy as Okie State has been the past ten years, it is still one of the two OG blue blood programs in the country, even if they both play second fiddle in this era, the AD is very likely looking for a coach who is at least in J Smith’s ballpark in terms of accomplishments and who can pull together a real RTC roster, not just a college team. Burroughs, Taylor, Dake, or Casey Cunningham are the only ones who can really fill J Smith’s shoes from that perspective. Too much of that Perry weight, Tarheels may be looking for a real Head coach again pretty soon.

There’s got to be an aspect of “mark to market” with the portal at this point, just a part of negotiating NIL rates after a good season.

This would either be a titanic flameout or would be a huge step back to parity in the college ranks, because we all know, chances are far greater than zero that wherever David goes Dake may go as well after this cycle. Especially with the current crew of Penn State coaches getting on in age, Dake and Taylor are that next crew hitting the "mentorship but can still go with you in the room" stage.

That would be such a big line on aaron brooks’ resumé. ”I beat the returning world and olympic champ so hard that he quit competing and flew half way around the country.”

The real challenge for ferrari is he can’t handle independence in a college environment. He’s used to being chaperoned pretty tightly by his parents, and obviously he goes completely off the rails when he’s away from that structure. He would likely stomp starrocci, size difference is enormous, but I give him at best a 5% chance of making it through the fall without getting kicked out of school and/or arrested.

Very likely yes. The OK State head coach will be a public employee, very different from being on staff at a private school (yes I know cornell has certain programs which are considered part of the state school system).

I see what you're saying and yeah, folkstyle wrestlers all have a shelf life, especially at the college level. To my memory though most Iowa guys who come in wind up wearing a pretty heavy amount of tape on something somewhere around year 2, and whether or not they are able to move on from said taped limb seems to dictate how they do throughout the rest of their eligibility. But fair point, road wear is inevitable no matter where they wrestle.