WrestlingRasta

There’s a lot of speculation that #6 is Ginni Thomas.

Even more to the point, in the indictment the prosecutors specifically lay out their belief the defendant “has a right to lie to the public” about the results. However the charging is not in the lies but in the actual operational plans. This is important for people who are not going to read the indictment but rather get their information from right wing media and influencers, because they’re talking point already this morning is that he is being charged for his first amendment right of free speech.

I do not have a legal background. My background is completely and solely athletics.

Agree. I actually started to write that I believe that was a very specific charging tactic for that reason. There’s a lot of evidence what happened was his intent, but going to be real hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt. I’ll be honest in that I thought proving he knew the election wasn’t stolen was going to be real hard to prove. But reading the indictment and the testimony that has come out…..it’s pretty damning. Three words in that evidence I believe is most damning: “You’re too honest” in response to Pence when Pence told him he could not do what Trump wanted him to do. How can you say you didn’t know it is a lie, when your rebuttal is ‘your’e too honest’? That doesn’t leave much reasonable doubt.

Yes, I am aware of the reporting around that issue, as it is obviously a big piece of this case in whole. I’m aware that there’s a lot of differing stories depending on who is commentating. I’m aware it’s been proven Flynn and Piatt lied to Congress about their involvement in the decision making around NG deployment. But I don’t think there’s really a whole lot of concrete info as to who did what in regard to the NG. More completely varying reports than anything else. One interesting thing about this indictment, if you read it, is that the charges don’t lead a whole lot to the violence and storming of the building, but more the planning and scheming involved in trying to overturn the results through Congress.

The tides are turnin ‘round here my friend

I’m talking specifically about this case. We could go on and on about the last seven years from both sides, but that’s already been done ad nauseum. I’m talking specifically about this case, how it is playing out in the courts of law and not how it’s playing out on Twitter. There’s plenty of spaces for that if you want to have those conversations.

Okay so do me a favor, read all 45 pages of the indictment, including the supporting evidence and testimony, and most importantly who that evidence and testimony came from, before ranting on me about being extreme and just buying into mainstream media, and then come back and let’s have a conversation. To clarify ‘hatred for trump’, just want to clarify that’s not at all accurate. First, I don’t have hatred period, there’s no benefit to it. I have concern, concern for what could happen to the US if someone who wants authoritative control succeeds in gaining it. Which leads me to the second piece, it’s not trump that interests me in the case, it’s a former president who, by the evidence and testimony of his own people seems to have attempted to overturn the election on multiple fronts, and thereby overthrow the government (I’ll keep it at seems to until there is a verdict). If you replace the name trump with Clinton or Obama or Biden, and everything else remains the same….the evidence, testimony, and who it derives from……my concern and interest in this case is exactly the same. So just read the whole indictment, objectively, and come back and let’s chat.

Did you read the indictment?

An investigation into the attempted overthrow of the U.S. govt in 2021 started seven years ago? I think I’m the one who does not understand.

Until that loser of the election tries to overthrow the US government and the results of an election that are at the very basis of our constitutional republic…. Then you go after them. Because if you don’t and there’s no accountability, what’s to stop the next (or same) nut job from trying again, and learning from the previous attempt’s failures.

Couple little pieces that don't look too good when it comes to this trail: The assigned judge has sat for 11 Jan 6 cases thus far, all 11 convicted by the jury. In those, the judge matched the prosecution recommended sentence four times, and went heavier than the prosecution recommendation in the other seven. Also interesting, the indictment specifically says that he knew, all of the election claims were false and he spread them anyway, which means they will have to absolutely prove what he did or did not believe, which is pretty difficult to do right. Where it gets interesting is the prosecution will go first, and they will have tons of evidence and testimony, from his own people, that will say he was told repeatedly by his team that the election was not stolen. (They are going to put a long line of admin officials and legal counsel on the stand to hammer this point down). The only way he is going to be able to combat that is to take the stand himself. Oh my.

I dont think there's any chance they go after the death penalty.

Felony charge #’s 75, 76, 77, 78 And MAGA is on the twitterverse talking about his right to lie and throw the whole nation into a frenzy is protected by the first ammendment. I feel sorry for these poor people.

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I stand corrected. I’ve always thought that limited it to consecutively. Grover Cleveland f***ed me up.

The two terms is only consecutively. A person can be president for more than two terms, just not in a row.

God I hope so

Agreed, which is why you hear “we are ultra marxists” from representative on the house floor, and see “marxists” hats at campaign rallies. I suppose it’s the same. Not an extremist point of view at all.

MAGA is not a slur, it is a name or acronym for a political platform, an acronym created and embraced by the people within. We all remember the “it’s not maga or super maga….it’s ultra maga” proclamation on the house floor, right?

It’s just precise. Kinda like scallops, texture a big part of it, overcooking it can be easy. Not sure how the place you had prepped then but I like to cut into nuggets, toss in a little bit of butter, little bit of season and on a skewer. Just sear it over hot fire for a few minutes, and right from grill to plate. Squeeze a lemon on the skewers.

Sea bass is delightful

I see the point we’ve reached here. Enioy the rest of your day sir.

The RINO argument. Always solid.

Biden’s people found the documents, reached out and said hey we found these documents, we’re returning them, and we think you need to send a team out to meet us here and other places to see if there’s more. They did. They found more. A special counsel was assigned and investigated. That is the documented series of events. I’m not sure what it is you think you’re accomplishing here.