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Bet. I tried to make it clear that my post was more-or-less in jest, but my words failed me. Apologies.

I gather that you disagree with @hammerlock3 's "goon" assessment. Could you expand on this? I always thought that Steveson was the slickest ever, esp with reshots.

Spratley just grabbed and held Bassett's collar-tie hand a thousand times:

Re sick: had a HS teammate who was cuttin' a brick. Could never tell if he was sick or just desecated. In the Regional final, he loses in overtime for the first time in like 70 matches (he was a jr and 2x state champ). On his way off the mat, he starts puking . . . like all the way to the locker room, where he starts evacuating from both ends. He couldn't figure out whether to sit on the throne or bow to the porcelain god. His mom comes in and tries to clean him up. In the midst of his complete abasement, our hardass coach comes and tells him if he's not on that podium to get his medal, he's off the team. So, he got up, did his best to wipe the puke and sh1t off his face, hands, and warm ups, and staggered to the podium. I'm not sure if he ever forgave that coach.

I can usually guess guys within <5 lbs. With the ladies, I get in my own head. I know what they weigh, I just don't want to offend. Then I start second guessing myself, trying to figure out how much they want everyone to think they weigh. Then, someone's pissed off.

idk, "Leg attacks" used to sound weird. Maybe, "head throw" will catch on. "Coffee grinder," though, I cannot abide.

No doubt. I'm kinda Pico-ing the kid.

This might be my dumbest idea ever, but hear me out. 'Member when RBY started hiding his left arm when he wrestled DeSanto, taking away his near-arm, far-leg dump? This tactic essentially shut down all of Desanto's offense. Is there a similar tactic that could mitigate the number of Bassett's snap/go-behind tds? Sure, you'd still have to deal with pace, a dozen leg attacks, pace, scrambling, pace, etc. . . . but but but?

Hmm. I guess that if any team started brothers against Duke, they would have both wrestled a Finesilver. BTW every time this topic comes up, I'm reminded of Mickewitz (sp?) double forfeit in a VA state final.

I heard that the reason for the slipping and sliding was bc the mats were on an ice rink. True?

Edit: this vid doesn't capture all the bottle-throwing mayhem. My bad.

Real question: what does he do on top? I've watched him since whenever, and I can't say.

Yeah, that Metzger against Alxeev was ... JWS was dangerous in every position. Re Gelogaev: could find the vids. Pretty sure it was at the Lindenwood open. The matches were on Flo at some point.

It was almost too dumb. I wondered if it was more indiffernce than anything. Remember what he did to Hrovat, our Olympic rep? I got the feeling that he thought the NCAA stuff was beneath him. Idk, just my gut reaction.

I worded it poorly: what I meant was that one of OSU's signature techniques -- elbow-tie-duck -- hadn't been all that effective for the team for a minute. But, Gelogaev could hit it. He started with an inside the on left andvsorta baited the guy to grab his right wrist. As the dude started reaching for the wrist, AG pushed his inside the away, causing this opponent to roll to his own inside tie ... giving AG elbow control on his left side. As he gripped elbow control to break the thumb, he slide his head to the opposite side (the right side) while pulling his captured right wrist away. As AG pulled the wrist and changed sides withe his head, he stepped with his right foot, pulled the elbow, and did the classic OSU elbow control duck to the left. I understand that the description is absurd. I'll find a vid in a moment.

His dual match against Slaton kinda sums up my (stereotypical/homer?) impression of the OSU / Iowa rivalry as a whole: the technically superior cowboys are perpetually on the verge of getting hosed. Real question: In Dapper Dan match, Scott wrestled with supreme confidence. I don't thi k I ever saw tgat level of confidence again. He won, but he didn't bully people in college. Am I mistaken?

Yeah, some of these are niche, but all show a one-of-one understanding about what it means win a wrestling match. Never met him, but Fleeger seemed like a bully and a prick ... in all the right ways: the superducks and inside trips were cool, but he excelled on top with near wrist and far claw/half. He just humiliated good kids. I coached at a bourgie suburban HS and had a bunch of nice kids who had never been in a fist fight. I wanted kids like Fleeger. Gelogaev brought an elbow-tie-duck with him to OSU, and it actually worked (a rarity in Stillwater at that point). He also completely disrespected tough guys' underhooks; he just let them pound it in and threw them on their heads. Santoro was an inspiration because he was so much taller and skinnier than his opponents, just like me. He wrestled from a tie ... on a knee: a complete no-no according to every midget coach I ever had. Anyway, there's a similar story to every pick. Thanks for reading.

I first saw Nix wrestle at the 4A East Region tournament in 1987(?). I remember bc he had to wrestle Mike Bodily from Bixby (my hometown) in the finals. From the whistle it looked like somebody put two pissed-off tom cats in a pillow case. Nix won, and I had a new favorite wrestler. Bodily won a rematch in the state final, (denying Nix a fourth state title, I think).

But I haven't seen Cuvo yet. Is his inclusion beyond the pale?

Yianni Diakomihalis Vito Arujau Mitch Clark Chris Fleeger Alan Gelogaev Keith Gavin Johnny Thompson Corey Cooperman Keith Nix Alan Fried Pat Santoro David Taylor Carl Sanderson Ben Askren Jason Nolf

Pretty sure. Dad said he was an AA at OU and strutted around like a "Billy badass" ... meant derisively, of course. This had to have been in the late 70's, early 80's.

My dad used to coach girls' basketball at Webster HS in Tulsa. He told me that the wrestling coach, one Rodney Jones, used to strut out of practice during the middle of his games with just a singlet on, the old freestyle kind, with the straps down.

I guess I'll be that 'member when guy: wrestlers today arrive on campus with years of D1-level training via the elite clubs, RTCs, and really loose interpretations of NCAA rules regarding whether or not rostered guys can roll with high schoolers. > a decade ago in my state (VA), most HS coaches were livid when they learned that Xtiansburg kids under Dresser and Weber could routinely go with the VT kids. Today, this stuff is normal for elite kids Point is that developing competitive D1 athletes is starting earlier. College staffs have adapted.

I've been hesitant to attribute the pokes' early season success to any technical training changes made by Taylor and co. I assumed that the team's aggressiveness, bonus point pushes, and ability to get off the bottom have been a result of a general excitement following regime change. We are still seeing elbow ties, an abundance of stutter steps in space, and shin whizzers or bust (not too many busts at this point). But then I noticed something: None of the coaches are wearing vests. Even Caldwell has abandoned the Stillwater sartorial staple. The trainer is the only holdout.