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I don't think it will have too much of an impact on NIL and drawing away from football - for those that wanted to play football to begin with. I know too many people that start to grow into that 210-225 zone as a freshman in college - which makes it even more bizarre in a way that we have 215 in high school - where the weight is much less common - compared to in college where it is far more common. I think shifting 184 and 197 upward is one way of going about it, and that would be an improvement on what we have now, but I would not be opposed to rethinking all of the weight classes if it makes sense to do so. 125 seems pretty small, but I think for now there is still some relevance. I could also see an argument for bumping it up to 130 and setting weights upward from there. I think 285 is fine to cast a wider net in college and they can cut ten lbs for the olympics. I am curious about the basis of your argument - regarding the rarity of light heavyweights having success. I think most (90%) if heavyweights this year were between 235 and 270 from what I've seen. So the assertion isn't that there are guys being outweighed by 90 lbs each time, but that the very large gap leaves for a disproportionate amount of weight mismatches in the HWT class. Not just in terms of lbs, but in terms of percentage of body weight giving up.

I dont know @bnwtwg personally, but Personal Experience as Valuable Insight bnwtwg's post draws from lived experiences as a collegiate athlete, which is highly relevant to the discussion. While some may perceive confidence as a "humble brag," it doesn't diminish the validity of his perspective. His insights about being a tweener in wrestling are credible and should be treated with respect. Context on Male Wrestling Numbers The critique cites growth in male participation but misinterprets bnwtwg’s concerns. While high school participation has increased, the argument about elite athletes (especially larger ones) being drawn away by NIL and football remains valid. Wrestling's challenges at the collegiate level, where fewer scholarships and limited resources exist compared to football, reinforce bnwtwg's point. Tweener Dilemma is Real Tweener wrestlers often face unique challenges. bnwtwg isn’t alone in pointing out the difficulty of finding a competitive edge at weights like 197 and 285. The critique dismisses this reality by focusing on rare success stories of undersized heavyweights, ignoring the larger trend. Tone and Intent Misunderstood While the critique labels bnwtwg’s tone as disrespectful, it may have been a passionate attempt to emphasize his perspective. Forum discussions often benefit from a diversity of voices, and dismissing someone’s experience based on perceived tone doesn’t engage the substance of their argument. Weight Class Structure Needs Reform bnwtwg’s call for rethinking the 197-285 gap highlights a long-standing issue in wrestling. Adjusting weight classes to better support tweeners would create more equitable opportunities without "watering down" competition. Critiquing the status quo isn’t belittling but advocating for improvement.

Reallocating the weights to assure that one exists between the weights of 197 and 285 is the argument. The rest of whatever you're arguing is some sort of strawman that I'm not sure where it is coming from. A middleweight doesn't get removed. All of the middle weights get moved around to account for different distributions of weight classes that do exist. The current system is completely asinine in systematically removing an entire group of athletic people from getting to wrestle in order to provide a mood boost to some JV kids that couldn't crack the varsity lineup. I also view it a slap in the face of the meritocracy that wrestling stands for.

Because 1) the gap of 90 lbs between these two weights eliminates people from the sport altogether. No one is going to avoid doing the sport altogether if you move around the middle weights (not the kind of people we would want in the sport anyway...) 2) As an added bonus, it directly leads to internationally relevant weight classes. This is emphatically less important than point one, but still a nice bonus.

I disagree wholeheartedly to the first paragraph. The second paragraph would not have been my argument.

Depends on what kind of gum we're talking about. Juicy Fruit and Big Red are acceptable if you close your mouth while chewing

Thanks for bringing the original post to light - it's not something I faced personally, but it's something I've observed. Although it feels like there is a false choice being presented of removing lightweight in order to resolve the problems of the heavier weights. As a board, we've batted around some common sense ideas of just evolving our weight classes to more closely mirror the international weights for Freestyle and Greco (splitting the difference where there is one). Moving around the middle weights makes more sense to me. Others make an argument about drawing fewer wrestlers in that case, but I would make the counterargument that there can only be so many varsity wrestlers at a given weight class (one). Is it so valuable to attract extra people who will be backups instead of attracting the gray area between HWT and 197.

Infrastructure funds and REITS are much bigger players in the data center game. Some hedge funds will do it, but they are not as significant in influencing the market

I asked ChatGPT a question about wrestlers from the Lehigh Valley, and it gave me a response with its sources. I clicked on the sources to see where it was getting the info - and one of the sources was actually a post that I had made a year ago on this forum (LOL!)

Sinclair looks like he should be a 184

Static rules will always lose to ambitious people. At some point we need to take a step back and empower wise people to make judgment calls (rather than rewriting the book everytime the person outhinks it)

Actually I think you're right. No idea what the rationale was (or if there was a rationale)

Aeoden Sinclair vs Stephen Buchanan coming up

Ferrari is acting like he's about to wrestle - pumping himself up and jumping up and down. Then collects the forfeit. He's a good actor I guess

Kennedy wins 6-2 over Danny Wask, the fans go wild

You might have luck by searching twitter or just asking us if you dont have BTN+ (which I wouldn't blame you and I will be cancelling)

they seem to be damn good coaches but are not the best with administrative tasks. I seem to remember Teske twice had his seeding submitted incorrectly, late, or not at all

I want Patrick Kennedy to AA this year

Anyone else have their BTN+ go down or just me? edit: nevermind my stream went back as the first period is dying down

They are still ongoing. Kennedy vs Wask next up

Caliendo takes it but that was way closer than expected

maybe he mean it will be a mother effing frenzy

Caliendo struggles with guys who have redder hair than he does

I think he's just forecasting his living quarters for next year - Terrell Barraclough's basement (while competing for Utah Valley of course)

I hope that Sonny Sasso can put their family on this list. Sammy has done his part.