BigRedFan

He is currently a senior at Cornell, and in his seventh year out of high school, so, yeah. COVID and a ORS will do that.

Let's also do current undergraduates for each school.

I'm guessing you know that I know that.

2017-18: greyshirt 2018-19: Cornell freshman 2019-20: Olympic red shirt 2020-21: COVID 2021-22: Cornell soph 2022-23: Cornell junior 2023-24: ORS? 2024-25: Cornell senior? Can't imagine he wants to stay in college for eight years, but who knows?

Has it been done before?

Like Yianni?

Try this for the schedule for day 2: https://arena.uww.org/sport-event/show/1ee3cbae-f1ff-6c1c-96f1-d54d04edeeec/live

Of all things, I have a violin ensemble practice at 11am...

I *think* this says 16:45 Serbia time, which is 10:45am EST. https://cdn.uww.org/s3fs-public/2023-05/infos_09_belgrade.pdf?VersionId=xFTOtVO2X984Yxgxty1r6Z3UN_A02G0W

Semi-final time? Flo says 1pm EST, UWW says 10:45am EST?

When you only have one review mechanism, and there are challenged on multiple mats, this is what happens.

https://arena.uww.org/sport-event/show/1ee3cbae-f1ff-6c1c-96f1-d54d04edeeec/live

FWIW, if you go to Flo's team standings, click on USA, then click on one of the active wrestlers, you'll see the number of their next match, which will tell you the assigned mat; looking at the upcoming matches will tell you how many matches to go on that mat. E.g., Vito's next match is bout 113, and mat D is currently on 102. YMMV.

FWIW, the arena.uww.org site is now unresponsive. They have a page with results and a page with all upcoming matches, and both are no longer reloading.

Starting lineup, best guess Ag school: 2 Architecture: 2 (very time-consuming, IIRC) ILR: 1 Business: 2 Not listed: 3

ILR is Industrial & Labor Relations. AKA "Hotel School". The Ag school majority is due to 1) it's a bit easier to get into than the Arts College or Engineering, and 2) it's a little cheaper. That doesn't mean it necessarily has an easier course load, by any means.

The school name on the diploma still matters. Cornell's roster has 14 in the Ag School, 5 in the Arts & Sciences, 5 in Engineering/CS, 3 in Architecture (including Foca and Cardenas), 3 in ILR, 3 in the Business School, and 1 in Human Ecology.

There are a number of guys who greyshirted and never enrolled at Cornell. Not everyone who commits to Cornell and greyshirts actually gets admitted to Cornell, by the way. Can't speak for the situation of any particular wrestler. Dom had already graduated.

I ran track at Cornell a long time ago, and I'd say nearly all the athletes I knew were there for the academics. I can't speak for the hockey team, though. Very, very few Ivy undergraduate wrestlers (and likely other athletes) transfer, even though there are a plethora of better programs with better coaches. IIRC, nobody followed Koll from Cornell to Stanford. I disagree with the idea that a degree from UNC is no different in most career paths than one from Cornell or Stanford. Merited or not, that's the way it is. You might consider the idea that recruits went to Cornell (when Koll was there) and Stanford (when Koll was there) because Koll helped get them into those schools, in addition to the idea that Koll had built a great program at Cornell and was likely to do the same at Stanford. I'm sure he'll do the same at UNC. We'll find out soon enough if current Stanford wrestlers or recruits follow him.

Why would anyone smart enough to get into Princeton or Stanford wish to transfer? Was Koll the actual on-mat coach at Stanford, such that a wrestler at Stanford wouldn't progress as much in his training under the other Stanford coaches or Ayres himself? Why would Koll coming to UNC drive anyone away from UNC? When Koll left Cornell, a number of recruits followed him to Stanford (a school upgrade, for sure). Only one of those recruits (Cardenas) was likely going to break into the Cornell starting lineup, so those recruits made a smart choice. As fine an institution as, say, Iowa or Penn State is, each isn't exactly Stanford or Princeton.

I’m sure the former Cornell recruits who switched to Stanford will jump at the chance to transfer to UNC. Snark aside, very few Ivy recruits ever transfer.

On the one hand, all those Cornell commits probably feel shafted, and portal notwithstanding they aren’t going to get into an equivalent school. On the other hand, Koll got them into Stanford…

Meyer Shapiro?

Flo ranks Stanford's 2024 recruits as second only to PSU. That's not a guarantee that they'll actually be accepted, but still...

Lehigh?