Interviewed_at_Weehawken

He would have had that word if the old forum existed in 1970.

Go Hawks!

Go Dukes!

Won my first (sub-varsity). Did not win another for a little over a year (also sub-varsity). Won my first varsity match as a Junior , probably late in the season. By my senior year of college I was beating guys who were placing 2nd (by pin) and 3rd (16-14) in my state during my losing streak. (Large prestigious one class state.) Armpit hair and weightlifting go a long way! (But I was really bad my first three years of high school)

I think the Steven Mocco era was the first to end, at the hands of one Leonce Crump.

JTTS

You forgot about knee sleeves and/or clunky braces.

Why no nearfall with two swipes?

Interesting pairings at that tournament, as well.

Speaking of which, I have been privileged to spend some time with Nate Carr, Sr. Amazing duck series!

I just don't see that.

f*n

That's his base. Just like Madsen's base is Greco. And TBH Couture, Lindland, Sonnen have a base in scholastic wrestling. Everyone trains all the disciplines. I see a lot of guys who miss weight and lose, because they weren't working hard during camp. Paulo Cost who was about 40 lbs over when he entered the ring for the Vettori fight is an example. Dawson was a replacement, might be why he missed.

Choked out by an American high school wrestler from Wisconsin, who was a replacement for the original opponent.

Clinch work. That is about it. Most of the mentioned Greco guys were attacking legs. All wrestled high school and collegiate, too.

Gee... that was a LONG time ago in a quickly developing sport. You know what else? All those guys were also NCAA wrestlers. Could there be something there? Chael and Couture sure shot a lot of doubles! Might be an NCAA thing? Also interesting: Couture multiple losses to NCAA wrestlers Lesnar and Lidell. Sonnen with losses to NCAA wrestlers Evans and Ortiz. Mark Madsen's UFC career looks to be derailed. The Olympic Greco medalist was just choked out by American high school wrestler Grant Dawson. I think wrestling is a great base, but all of the mentioned Americans who have had success are guys who wrestled high school and college. They have great ability to hold people down, for one thing. BTW Kevin Jackson was a champ in the #2 American organization at the time. Alger and Jackson both won the wrestling portion of the fight,; both were arm barred. (Inoue, who beat Alger, actually submitted Couture with an armbar too- Greco couldn't save him)

I like Greco. I wouldn't say that it is the most successful style in MMA.

Excuses are for wusses.

True. I was referring to Merkles (which is a side headlock).

Ummm... neutral? If you try that on top, its a point and a restart. Please- buy a rulebook.

I believe that was locked hands. It is also possible that the refs (and coaches) missed a similar one late in Bonnacorsi/Trumble. For whatever reason, even good wrestling minds miss locked hands on chest wrap type positions. I am talking about chest wraps that happen in flurries when one man is already on top. I think it is because they look like neutral positions, but the top man is still in control, so it should be called a clasp.

None of those techniques involve clasping around the torso or legs without an arm encircled.

Wasn't Parris was on the leg and should have been on a 5 count?

Not as much as I do...