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agreed and he also has wins over 3 of those 4, maybe all 4. Not sure if he wrestled and beat Guererro earlier in the year he lost to him at NCAAs. I know he avenged regular season loss to Tirapelle at Big Ten same year, had multiple wins over Abe the year McGiness won his first title, and he avenged regular season loss to Cunningham in the NCAA finals same year.

I'm pretty sure that is correct

what 4 timer has lost to the most NCAA champs? Stieber I guess with the 1 loss to Retherford? 3 timer? Tom Brands has 3 that I can think of - Jim Martin, Kendall Cross, and Alan Fried. Anyone else for him or what about other 3 timers? 2 timer? Jeff McGuiness has 4 that I can think of - Sanshiro Abe, Eric Guererro, Casey Cunningham, and Adam Tirapelle. Anyone else for him or what about other 2 timers? thinking JP O'Connor's 6 is going to stand as most for a 1 timer.

random question - was Wessell the one with a judo background?

And Goldman avenged his final loss from previous year in the process

Cyler? How many Sanderson bros are on staff?

so I guess he won't be wrestling at the Collegiate Duals in December. Lock Haven has NC State, Ohio State, and Northern Iowa at that event, so he would potentially face Jack, Mendez, and Happel respectively. FWIW, wrestlestat has him losing by major to all 3. Tough comp, it would be nice to see him wrestle those guys and get a better idea of where he stands early in the season.

thanks. blind squirrel in full force today

as for PSU MOV, I vote no. I see a 135-80 type margin.

so that Iowa .5 margin of victory in 1978 - took a look at that bracket to see if there was anything especially noteworthy that could have been the difference. See that Frank Santana from Iowa St lost by default in the finals. So that inspired me to see if I could find any details on that. from SI vault: Santana's opponent was Ron Jeidy of Wisconsin, who led 3-1 with slightly more than two minutes to go in the second period. At that point Jeidy tried a takedown. Santana fought him off. In the process, however, Santana severely wrenched his right knee. Time was called while his trainer and coach examined him. When action resumed, Santana stumbled to keep his balance. So Iowa State Coach Dr. Harold Nichols stepped on the mat and signaled that he would not allow Santana to continue. Thus, Iowa won by half a point and earned Gable, a 1972 Olympic gold medalist, his first title in two years as coach. Iowa had to sweat it out - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI.com

Was Hamlin the one they called Vermonster? Going way back, I think Lehigh great Colin Kilrain was a New England guy too. As for the higher goals, hear you but think it also applies in many states. I’m good friends with a guy who coaches for a top club program in Virginia. He told me not too long ago that’s a problem here, most kids set the goal of being state champs but aren’t working to be national caliber/D1 types.

Yagla beat Kemp in ‘75 and won again in ‘76. Kemp went up a weight in ‘76 to get his 1st title.

1980 Joe Gonzales scored 94 in 5 matches after winning by DSQ in pig-tail. 25-11, 20-7, 27-7, 16-7, 6-3. Pre TF days of course.

Lewboo’s teammate Mike Deanna might have been more hyped coming out of HS, fwiw it was worth in that era.

I don’t recall Cole Matthews giving up double digit points or getting bonused very often.

Looking around at old brackets courtesy of wrestlingstats. 1988 Scott Turner scored 36 total so way too many for this exclusive club. What I found interesting is his cumulative margin of victory was 35, he only gave up 1 point. To the original poster, I guess this was extremely inefficient. With that kind of D he could have eased up and won every pre finals match 1-0.

that's a crazy stat, given all your accolades!

'03 through '09 the run where Indiana, Cornell, and Nebraska owned the 125 class.

Metcalf, Dustin Schlatter, and Mocco were probably some of the most hyped recruits in the 2000s anyway. Nickerson too.

I wrestled Mark Ruffalo in a summer tournament. He played the legend Dave Schultz in the movie Foxcatcher. (ok I definitely wrestled a guy named Ruffalo but don’t recall for sure if first name was Mark. Our ages and the young Ruffalo being a Va Beach kid lines up though)

unfortunately, I did not hang 'em up for good off that win streak. Wrestled in an open tournament at age 34, didn't go so well.

was undefeated in college, in the two years I wrestled intramurals I went 4-0.

Recall hearing he beat Mark Branch while still in HS. Not sure if folk or free.

No. Ramos stopping Lee from a potential 4th NCAA title beats pretty much anything that happens in the first weekend of the season. Impressive as it was for Blaze.

Vague recall that Cary Kolat beat NCAA champ Sean O’Day while still in HS.