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One question I have is if there should be a distinction between male-to-female trans athletes that transitioned before vs after puberty. I think if they transitioned before puberty they should definitely be able to compete alongside all other girls. If they transitioned after puberty, maybe there's an argument for not allowing it. I think for almost every sport, anyone of any sex or gender who wants to compete with men should be allowed to. I think intersex individuals should be free to compete with the group they identify as. Maybe there are exceptions to this that I haven't considered, but the women I've read about like Semenya, I think should be able to compete with women. It may be a competitive advantage, but I think that's okay. I don't know of an elite athlete who doesn't have physical advantages that help them be elite.

I voted Abas but I agree Lee is a fine choice too. But yes, there's clearly a huge recency bias in the fan vote at least. Not because Lee won but because it was a blowout.

For sure. Weight classes are important for wrestling, but they actually don't matter at all in fighting.... right?

Ok but go back to OP's post, which said, "none of the OSU kids would have gotten into West Point." That's a silly statement to make so definitively.

Violating teammates and "even worse things" to various women over the years. We don't know the specifics on those things and if you want to hold off on judgment I certainly can't fault you. There was also the specific allegation of theft. And there's been violent rhetoric in the past.

NCAA President Charlie Baker testified in December that out of more than 500,000 student athletes, fewer than 10 were transgender.

The Oregon one, the athlete in question placed 5th and the protesters placed 3rd and 4th. The California one, the athlete in question had a three-way tie for 1st in high jump, shared 1st with another athlete in triple jump, and got 2nd in long jump. It doesn't look like anyone protested her though.

Thanks. Guess Wrestlestat made a mistake (fixed now). That lineup is nails

I believe so, but that doesn't make her trans. And like I said, the issue with the track governing body was not her sex or her chromosomes, but her testosterone levels.

Caster Semenya was forced to medically reduce her natural test levels to be allowed to compete

Some are intersex, some have high T, etc

Most of the athletes that tend to be discussed with this topic aren't actually trans

Is McDanel actually in the portal/considering a transfer?

What we do know are Cael's actual words when asked about a national duals. So much effort to try to make his avoidance more palatable

What's the probability that Sinclair goes 184 vs 197?

Everyone using this to justify Penn State's absence is just backfilling reasoning to make it seem better that Cael is skipping out. Cael flatly dismissed the national duals idea when it was first being discussed. It had nothing to do with the timing of it.

match her up with Mesenbrink and call Guinness

Hadn't heard of this but will give it a watch at some point just because I hovered over the video scrubber and the photography is really beautiful

Someone in Twitter said they can delay it until 2 weeks prior to worlds

Place and date TBD

Villasenor?